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  • El_Mero
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    #11
    Originally posted by Leicesterage

    It's not about Tank, it's about Crawford, who's really the one calling for it repeatedly. How about you **** on Crawford for calling out lightweights instead of defending his belts against Stankonia or Boots?
    All those 2 have to do is petition their orgs. They have to answer. End of story

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    • SilverMiles
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      #12
      Canelo signs 3 fight deal with Showtime/CBS and CBS owned website and gives Canelo the top spot after beating a 154 pounder.

      Sounds about right.

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      • crold1
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        #13
        Originally posted by SilverMiles
        Canelo signs 3 fight deal with Showtime/CBS and CBS owned website and gives Canelo the top spot after beating a 154 pounder.

        Sounds about right.
        Can assure that’s no influence. Think you can see that in all the quarterlies going back a couple years

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        • Doubledagger
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          #14
          Originally posted by Leicesterage

          Maybe, but that's not Canelo's fault, just like Spence not showing up is not Crawford's fault.

          We need to be consistent.

          If people big up Crawford for the version of Spence that showed up, we need to big up Canelo for the version of Charlo that showed up. And Charlo was a undisputed champion that didn't fight like one. Not Canelo's fault, but he gets the credit.

          Remember, people upped Teofimo for the version of Loma that showed up, but didn't up Sandor Martin for the version of Teofimo that showed up and didn't up Devin for the version of Loma that showed up.

          We need to be consistent.
          How can you compare Canelo fighting a guy two weight classes below coming from a long lay off and a hand injury that was brokem in two places to Crawford beating Errol Spence in his division?

          What kind of nonsense is this?

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          • Combat Talk Radio
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            #15
            Originally posted by Doubledagger

            How can you compare Canelo fighting a guy two weight classes below coming from a long lay off and a hand injury that was brokem in two places to Crawford beating Errol Spence in his division?

            What kind of nonsense is this?
            Charlo didn’t show up.
            Spence didn’t show up. And by the way, long layoff. Be consistent.
            Teofimo didn’t show up.
            Loma didn’t show up.
            Dubois didn’t show up.
            Eubank didn’t show up in the first fight.
            Smith didn’t show up in the second fight.

            it’s all the same. Bottom line.

            If the victor got the credit in one, they all should. Or none should.

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #16
              Originally posted by Leicesterage

              Maybe, but that's not Canelo's fault, just like Spence not showing up is not Crawford's fault.

              We need to be consistent.

              If people big up Crawford for the version of Spence that showed up, we need to big up Canelo for the version of Charlo that showed up. And Charlo was a undisputed champion that didn't fight like one. Not Canelo's fault, but he gets the credit.

              Remember, people upped Teofimo for the version of Loma that showed up, but didn't up Sandor Martin for the version of Teofimo that showed up and didn't up Devin for the version of Loma that showed up.

              We need to be consistent.
              Spence did show up. He got beaten badly. Charlo didnt. There is no comparison between the two.

              I am not taking credit away from Canelo by being honest about Charlo’s performance. I have yet to criticize Canelo. In another thread I credited him with making Charlo scared to risk winning.

              Im not sure what you’re saying. I took nothing away from any winner based on the opponent.

              I am being consistent.

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              • SUBZER0ED
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                #17
                Originally posted by Leicesterage

                Maybe, but that's not Canelo's fault, just like Spence not showing up is not Crawford's fault.

                We need to be consistent.

                If people big up Crawford for the version of Spence that showed up, we need to big up Canelo for the version of Charlo that showed up. And Charlo was a undisputed champion that didn't fight like one. Not Canelo's fault, but he gets the credit.

                Remember, people upped Teofimo for the version of Loma that showed up, but didn't up Sandor Martin for the version of Teofimo that showed up and didn't up Devin for the version of Loma that showed up.

                We need to be consistent.
                I get it, but it just seems hard to give credit to a fighter for beating an opponent who didn't show up. But we MUST give him credit, because the victor's skill and presence are what contributed to the opponent not showing up.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                  Spence did show up.
                  You know damn well that Errol Spence should not have been rocked off a jab.

                  He didn’t show up. Physically OR mentally.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Leicesterage

                    You know damn well that Errol Spence should not have been rocked off a jab.

                    He didn’t show up. Physically OR mentally.
                    I disagree. He got hit harder than expected.

                    My point is he showed up. He tried, but got beaten by a better fighter. Nothing he did worked. Je kept truing though and that is why he got kod.

                    Charlo didn’t even try to win. He decided early in round 1 that a wide UD loss was better tham trying to win and get kod.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                      I disagree. He got hit harder than expected.

                      My point is he showed up. He tried, but got beaten by a better fighter. Nothing he did worked. Je kept truing though and that is why he got kod.

                      Charlo didn’t even try to win. He decided early in round 1 that a wide UD loss was better tham trying to win and get kod.
                      If you seriously believe that a guy who ate constant No Look Hooks from Danny Swift and bombs from Shawn Porter without even wobbling should have been rocked and dropped multiple times from a jab, by a guy who got his eye closed from a jab and lost all four rounds to the ghost of Kell Brook, was legit in the fight, you're a mark brother. That's all that needs be said.

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