Is Derrick James one of the worst trainers ever?

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  • Teetotaler69
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    #11
    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
    One rough year isn’t enough to define a man

    Only so much a trainer can do when the opponent is multiple levels beyond his fighter
    Lmao you and all the idiots who liked your comment just exposed yourselves as idiots. You pretty much confirmed that he has an average team that just feasted on mediocre fighters

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    • GrandpaBernard
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      #12
      Originally posted by Teetotaler69

      Lmao you and all the idiots who liked your comment just exposed yourselves as idiots. You pretty much confirmed that he has an average team that just feasted on mediocre fighters
      come here azz hat

      I want to wipe mines with your scalp

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      • crimsonfalcon07
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        #13
        Not a good year for his guys, even if some of the ones you mentioned aren't his guys at all. Plant is with Breadman, for instance. Fulton is with Wahid Rahim.

        And as long as you're crapping on trainers, did you have the same for Eddy Reynoso, when every single one of his champs popped positive for PEDs? That's an actual trainer issue.

        Ultimately the fighter is responsible for what he does in the ring, in any case. They have to be willing to learn and listen, and have the ability to execute a gameplan and follow the trainer's instructions. What instructions did James give that you thought were wrong? How's your own stable of champs doing these days?
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        • STREET CLEANER
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          #14
          His fighters faced all to top three top contenders on the planet. Don't see the shame on that.
          Last edited by STREET CLEANER; 10-02-2023, 07:39 AM.

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          • Malvado
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            #15
            Rough year but I don't think James could had done enough to prepare them against P4P fighters with conditions stacked against his fighters, although it wouldn't have changed the outcome for any of them.

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            • Raggamuffin
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              #16
              Originally posted by Silence
              Fulton got ****d by Inoue.
              Spence got ****d by Crawford.
              Jermell got ****d by Canelo.

              ​​​​​The issue is his fighters couldn't even win a few rounds. They lost by shutout or TKO. Okay, their opponents are top 3 P4P on the planet by huge margin. But, could it explain his crappy gameplans with ultra low IQ?

              At least Spence should have gone to distance and won around 4 rounds.
              Spence might’ve won round 1 to you Spence Homers, but that’s about it.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Feroz
                Rough year but I don't think James could had done enough to prepare them against P4P fighters with conditions stacked against his fighters, although it wouldn't have changed the outcome for any of them.
                Exactly. You’re talking Bud, Inoue and Canelo, lmao. Yeah, that’s a bad year-to the tards…!!!!!!

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                • Str8.2.Da.Point
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Silence
                  Fulton got ****d by Inoue.
                  Spence got ****d by Crawford.
                  Jermell got ****d by Canelo.

                  ​​​​​The issue is his fighters couldn't even win a few rounds. They lost by shutout or TKO. Okay, their opponents are top 3 P4P on the planet by huge margin. But, could it explain his crappy gameplans with ultra low IQ?

                  At least Spence should have gone to distance and won around 4 rounds.
                  I've been saying this for a few years now. I'm not promoting he is one of the worst, but he definitely isn't an elite mind in the corner. His guys make zero to very little adjustments vs equal or greater talent. He is on record of saying he doesn't watch film.......HOW TF ARE YOU PREPARING YOUR FIGHTER THEN. I get a fighter saying they don't watch their opponent. Even that is questionable and a bit ignorant as the fighter may think his skill set will depict the action in the fight, but a trainer should know better. Can you imagine any elite coach in another sport saying they don't watch film...... Do we think Nick Saban or Bill Belichik or Greg Popovich, etc....saying they don't watch film on their opponents. Why are you here then?......

                  Derrick James was heard in the corner this weekend telling Charlo late in the fight to "keep chopping him down"..........What?.....Chopping him down....he landed a total of 11 body shots for the entire 12 rounds......What fight was Derrick watching?

                  Charlo walked into the ring with a lack of confidence. His body language was clear. Lack of preparation births fear and/or nervous behavior.

                  There wasn't a tool in Charlo's bag that he ever showcase in his career that lead me to believe he would ever have a chance vs Canelo. But you would think his coach would try to prepare him for the moment being that he has to be there. ZERO ANSWERS.

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                  • bballchump11
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                    Wasn’t Derrick yelling at Mell to do more instead of just survival mode

                    or was that Lubin’s trainer

                    That was the correct advice
                    He yelled at him to go after Canelo late in the fight and that he was tired. He also told him the he was losing and needed a KO.

                    He told Frank Martin similar advice in his last fight, and he turned up the heat and scored a KD in the 12th round.

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                    • Gary Coleman
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                      #20
                      When Jermell followed James's advice he found success, but Mell was always mindful of getting countered.

                      He was never going to win this fight, regardless of trainer. Same with Errol.

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