Comments Thread For: Derrick James: Most People On The P4P List Haven't Done Half The Stuff Jermell Has Done

[_Rexy_]

Its over, it's not gonna be a two belt system like the old days. Between the alphabet body's and PBC there hardly anything good going on. Look at the weekends card The main event was terrible garbage. The Co main more garbage with corrupt Judging on top of it. Wbc giving Haney a duck pass against Stevenson Until he stopped negotiating with Regis. Then finally took the belt away from Haney. Nobody needs the ABC orgs except there hangers oners trash. Old trash. They'll creat a UFC type operation and cancel the corrupt inept ABC orgs one of these days. Then they'll become the corrupt ones, probably hiring the former ABC guys to to join them. Somebody sure made some money on that Ramos fight coming back @$320. The fact Ramos dummied up and actually said Lubin was good he had a good game plan. He landed 17%!!! Hello PBC = Please More Boxing Corruption

The Lubin/Ramos fight was the only one on the card I was looking forward too, and it turned out to be a garbage fight before the cards were even read.


Not to mention the mushrooms I had taken had me staring at that giant pink ***** way too much

[crimsonfalcon07]

Quality of opponents is more important than belt collection. I'm actually sick of hearing about the "four belt era", is it supposed to be a good thing that the WBOgus became recognised and so-called "undisputed" champions are expected to hand over another fee to another corrupt sanctioning body?

Funny that you're calling out one of the two organizations that actually enforces its own rules. No issues with the WBC letting Jermall sit inactive since June 2021 without at least declaring him champ in recess per its own rules, or letting Tyson Fury fight Ngannou with no mandatory, or WBA for the entire Rolly situation, but you have an issue with WBO?

[dan-b]

Funny that you're calling out one of the two organizations that actually enforces its own rules. No issues with the WBC letting Jermall sit inactive since June 2021 without at least declaring him champ in recess per its own rules, or letting Tyson Fury fight Ngannou with no mandatory, or WBA for the entire Rolly situation, but you have an issue with WBO?

They're all crap, we just didn't need another one. It will be the IBO next, are you looking forward to the "five belt era"?

[crimsonfalcon07]

They're all crap, we just didn't need another one. It will be the IBO next, are you looking forward to the "five belt era"?

So what in particular informs this opinion of yours? Because if we're going to go back to 2 belts, I'd much rather lose the WBC and WBA. If you think there's too many, why are you not after the obviously corrupt ones?

Why are they "all crap"? In particular, what's the issue that you have with the WBO?

The WBC and WBA have a long and storied history of being corrupt, and I've already pointed out some examples of that. The IBF did get raided by the FBI. Can you name the specific issue you have with the WBO, or are you just lumping them all together out of ignorance?

Did you know that the WBO "super" champion designation isn't the same as a WBA one, and that they don't allow another champion whether there's a super champ or not? Just one, and that champ gets specific privileges, like the ability to get ranked as a mandatory for the next division up if they choose to move up. No extra sanctioning fees for multiple champions like the WBC and WBA.

Did you know that the WBO invited the other presidents to meet in 2021 to discuss how to have only a single champion per division, and that was the first time the leaders of each alphabet organization had met personally?

[dan-b]

So what in particular informs this opinion of yours? Because if we're going to go back to 2 belts, I'd much rather lose the WBC and WBA. If you think there's too many, why are you not after the obviously corrupt ones?

Why are they "all crap"? In particular, what's the issue that you have with the WBO?

The WBC and WBA have a long and storied history of being corrupt, and I've already pointed out some examples of that. The IBF did get raided by the FBI. Can you name the specific issue you have with the WBO, or are you just lumping them all together out of ignorance?

Did you know that the WBO "super" champion designation isn't the same as a WBA one, and that they don't allow another champion whether there's a super champ or not? Just one, and that champ gets specific privileges, like the ability to get ranked as a mandatory for the next division up if they choose to move up. No extra sanctioning fees for multiple champions like the WBC and WBA.

Did you know that the WBO invited the other presidents to meet in 2021 to discuss how to have only a single champion per division, and that was the first time the leaders of each alphabet organization had met personally?

The WBO was formed by the former bagman at the WBA so he could continue taking bribes. Enough said.

[crimsonfalcon07]

The WBO was formed by the former bagman at the WBA so he could continue taking bribes. Enough said.

Got any evidence for your accusations? Acevedo was pretty well respected, from what I've seen. Think you'd win a slander case?

[dan-b]

Got any evidence for your accusations? Acevedo was pretty well respected, from what I've seen. Think you'd win a slander case?

I'm referring to Pepe Cordero. I've never seen anyone so defensive of the WBO, got an interest to declare?

You were wrong about the presidents meeting for the first time in 2021, also. The WBC, WBA and IBF met in 2014: https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...meet-in-cancun

[crimsonfalcon07]

I'm referring to Pepe Cordero. I've never seen anyone so defensive of the WBO, got an interest to declare?

You were wrong about the presidents meeting for the first time in 2021, also. The WBC, WBA and IBF met in 2014: https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...meet-in-cancun

What on earth are you talking about? WBO's presidents have been Acevedo, Jose Torres, and Francisco Valcárcel. You just believing things from random unsubstantiated claims by forum whack jobs?

That meeting you reference didn't include the WBO.

The WBO to my knowledge is the only one that HASN'T had a corruption scandal. Please do correct me if you're wrong, but from what I've seen, they're the best of the 4.

[dan-b]

What on earth are you talking about? WBO's presidents have been Acevedo, Jose Torres, and Francisco Valcárcel. You just believing things from random unsubstantiated claims by forum whack jobs?

That meeting you reference didn't include the WBO.

The WBO to my knowledge is the only one that HASN'T had a corruption scandal. Please do correct me if you're wrong, but from what I've seen, they're the best of the 4.

The WBO was formed by Pepe Cordero who left the WBA after Arum admitted he'd been giving him bribes.

Define "a corruption scandal". It's well known the WBO had a very cosy relationship with Warren and his fighters were overrepresented in the rankings. Is that a "corruption scandal"? I don't know, but it's a questionable business practice.

[crimsonfalcon07]

The WBO was formed by Pepe Cordero who left the WBA after Arum admitted he'd been giving him bribes.

Define "a corruption scandal". It's well known the WBO had a very cosy relationship with Warren and his fighters were overrepresented in the rankings. Is that a "corruption scandal"? I don't know, but it's a questionable business practice.

Where's your source? Because everything official says the WBO was founded by Luis Salas, and the leadership was as I've already said. The only content I've found about a Pepe Cordero was an unsubstantiated thread on this forum made up by a user named WBC WBA IBF, because that's not su****ious at all.