PPVs are done to cover fighter's purses not because a fight is "PPV worthy"

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  • Mammoth
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    #1

    PPVs are done to cover fighter's purses not because a fight is "PPV worthy"

    I don't believe I'm wrong on this. Kinda tired of the typical PPV complaints in every thread about PPV's.
  • Rockybigblower
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    #2
    You are right on that point. The point people are trying to make though us not every fighter is worth the money they charge. In business its not the customers job to pay the employees. Their boss should pay them their wage and if they overpay them...why should the customer be overcharged to make up the shortfall.

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    • buddyr
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      #3
      If promoters were smart(and they aren't) instead of greedy, they could make way more money on free tv than on ppv. They could host fights on NBC and charge for commercial space. they could get contracts with NBC to develop talent and for the BIG fights, hold a superbowl type of event. Crawford vs Spence on NBC could have been a blank check. They could have had Thruman vs Boots on the undercard along with other big fights. Promoters are ***in robbing us with these bs ppv evnets. Back in the day, you wanted to see all of Don King fights. Trinidad and Norris had fights on Tyson vs Seldon undercard. They were preparing for a big fight until keith Mullins destroyed those plans.

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      • Teetotaler69
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        #4
        I'm out of the loop but is there an Einstein AI posting on boxingscene? I mean what a genius take that people with 2 brain cells simply couldn't have thought of.

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        • Eff Pandas
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          #5
          Originally posted by Rockybigblower
          You are right on that point. The point people are trying to make though us not every fighter is worth the money they charge. In business its not the customers job to pay the employees. Their boss should pay them their wage and if they overpay them...why should the customer be overcharged to make up the shortfall.
          In the free market entertainment world it often is. Lotsa entertainers forgo gtd money or take less gtd money for gate revenue or points knowing they are popular enough to make that risk pay off more often than not.

          In boxing if a promoter misjudges the situation then it'll cost them in the wallet. A promoter must have some sort of fan interest stats &/or metric(s) about the fighters & fight that he's making a plus EV decision on to make sure a fight will bring in the gtd money he'll have to pay if it doesn't. Idk that its about the fans making up the shortfall so much as appealing to the fans in the first place that see value in the fight that others may not. Then the profit gets divided if that gtd money threshold gets met & the promoter wins more if the fighters undervalued their popularity with a higher gtd or the fighters win if they undervalued the gtd money knowing they could draw well above the gtd money to get more of the profits.

          And in general something is worth whatever ppl are willing to pay. This is capitalism 101 sh^t. These autistic billionaires live to find something that they can arbitrage & scale up as money comes in to make it as low risk high reward as possible. This promotion making a fight a PPV thing is just a grade school version of that.

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          • dan-b
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            #6
            The online boxing community enjoys being angry so this is something else they latch onto. Most people who watch boxing have other constructive things going on with their lives (wives, girlfriends, hobbies, a life outside the internet, etc.) so they will make a very quick decision about whether they want to buy a PPV or not and move on. They don't dominate comment sections and forums with their repetitive complaints.

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            • dan-b
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              #7
              Originally posted by buddyr
              Promoters are ***in robbing us with these bs ppv evnets.
              No they're not. No one forces you to buy it. A mentally healthy person just says "mmm, not interested in that one" and goes and does something else. They don't leave multiple semi-literate rants on the internet.

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              • Jsmooth9876
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                #8
                Of course they are but it doesn't change the fact that most of them don't belong on PPV and we shouldn't pay to watch them if they are inferior products

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
                  Of course they are but it doesn't change the fact that most of them don't belong on PPV and we shouldn't pay to watch them if they are inferior products
                  We can’t continue to judge today through the lenses of years ago.

                  25 years ago, a fight was put on PPV because of the quality of the matchup.

                  Now fights are put on PPV because regular networks aren’t covering the cost of certain fights.

                  Boxing doesn’t occupy the same space it used to such that you can argue there are no fights that are PPV worthy matchups.

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                  • crimsonfalcon07
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                    For my part, saying something isn't worth being on PPV IMO means I'm not interested in paying extra for it. In the case of, say, Haney v Prograis, I also think that's a good way to have a giant flop of a fight. I don't view it as a complaint, just a statement of fact that it's not worth my money. Eddie will find out sooner or later. Smacks of desperation for any money, IMO.

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