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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    #31
    Can we stop pretending this is a serious fight? Please?

    I can understand why is Fury doing this, it is a smart business move, but it has nothing to do with the real boxing.

    Can we stop pretending Ngannou has anything for Fury?

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    • juggernaut666
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      #32
      Originally posted by Tanakasensei

      Ngannou is bigger than Wilder.... And has better fundamentals, as you can see in any training clip of his.
      ​​his.

      His jab is light years better than Wilders..
      Everyone’s fundamentals are better then Wilders you aren’t stating anything no one knows . My 20 yr old son has better fundamentals with just training with me 6 months and he hasn’t even had one amateur fight yet ? Lol

      Id agree Ngannou is more skilled but his style requires defense responsibility,I see holes like Swiss cheese , only thing you got on your side is Fury hate’s pressure and pressuring and a fast pace him shows how overatted his own defense is . At the end of the day experience wins at this level not hitting harder if Fury can’t win it’s over for him because if you claim your the greatest you don’t lose to guys like Ngannou . If Ngannou tries to make it a jabbing contest he will set himself up for a knockout loss .
      Last edited by juggernaut666; 09-21-2023, 10:56 AM.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Tanakasensei

        Ngannou is bigger than Wilder.... And has better fundamentals, as you can see in any training clip of his.
        ​​his.

        His jab is light years better than Wilders..
        ?
        Ngannou trains different fundamentals entirely... Apples to Oranges. A jab is delivered differently depending on naked hand, small glove, big glove. It is why the foward lead in preclassical boxing was eclipsed by the jab. Itb is why an art like Wing Chun looks like it does and is 90% nullified when anything is put on the hands... The connection, the kinematic chain occuring between my body, to hand, to opponent's target area cannot occur with a buffer the same way. Punches have to become more about swinging a lot of mass and less about an accurate connection.

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        • K--
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          #34
          Yall are getting trolled by an account who's user name is a Frank Dux reference. C'mon Tanakasensei, quit picking on old men on the internet. It's low hanging fruit.

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          • The D3vil
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            #35
            Yeah, this is nonsense.

            Sergio Mora put it best, "a boxer has a puncher's chance in an octagon, but an MMA fighter stands NO chance in a boxing ring"

            *unless the boxer's compromised like Chavez Jr.

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            • Tanakasensei
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              #36
              Originally posted by juggernaut666

              Everyone’s fundamentals are better then Wilders you aren’t stating anything no one knows . My 20 yr old son has better fundamentals with just training with me 6 months and he hasn’t even had one amateur fight yet ? Lol

              Id agree Ngannou is more skilled but his style requires defense responsibility,I see holes like Swiss cheese , only thing you got on your side is Fury hate’s pressure and pressuring and a fast pace him shows how overatted his own defense is . At the end of the day experience wins at this level not hitting harder if Fury can’t win it’s over for him because if you claim your the greatest you don’t lose to guys like Ngannou . If Ngannou tries to make it a jabbing contest he will set himself up for a knockout loss .
              This fight was from 2015...he was a rookie then.

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                #37
                Originally posted by BKM-

                Foreman for all his storied punching power legend was hardly ever a one punch KO guy. He mostly wore his opponents down into TKO's.
                Only because they didn't stop fights like they do now.


                He dropped Frazier six times in two rounds, and the only reason they stopped the fight is because Dundee and Durham were yelling at the ref to stop it.


                And even still, during his first boxing run, most of his fights only lasted 3-4 rounds.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by The D3vil
                  Yeah, this is nonsense.

                  Sergio Mora put it best, "a boxer has a puncher's chance in an octagon, but an MMA fighter stands NO chance in a boxing ring"

                  *unless the boxer's compromised like Chavez Jr.
                  That's still a bit of a tough one, because Silva was a kickboxer who also had five or six pro boxing fights under his belt too IIRC. It wasn't a one time thing

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                  • Tanakasensei
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by _Rexy_

                    Only because they didn't stop fights like they do now.


                    He dropped Frazier six times in two rounds, and the only reason they stopped the fight is because Dundee and Durham were yelling at the ref to stop it.


                    And even still, during his first boxing run, most of his fights only lasted 3-4 rounds.
                    That has nothing to do with it. Relatively few of his opponents were out cold.

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                    • Tanakasensei
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by The D3vil
                      Yeah, this is nonsense.

                      Sergio Mora put it best, "a boxer has a puncher's chance in an octagon, but an MMA fighter stands NO chance in a boxing ring"

                      *unless the boxer's compromised like Chavez Jr.
                      Chavez Jr wasn't compromised lol..

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