Why canelo lost to Bivol

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  • HeadShots
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    #11
    i don't think size is the reason Bivol won btw. I honestly believe Canelo is heavier on fight night than Bivol. Bivol doesn't cut much and Canelo doesn't reveal fight night weight for a reason.


    With that said, Bivol is simply noticeably faster than Canelo and can throw in 10 punch combos at long range like Manny Pacquiao. it's a very unique ability that only few in boxing have.

    Bivol is not only faster and has better balance, agility and combos.

    Bivol also has a stronger gas tank. He put Canelo on the treadmill up hill and ran Canelo out of gas.

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    • Tanakasensei
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      #12
      Originally posted by FinitoxDinamita
      Fight wasnt all that exciting so I didn’t pay attention, but, I would think that Bivol’s off rhythm footwork combined with his sense of distance and timing threw him off.
      I think the weight inexperience and uncertainty made Canelo put everything in one card.

      ​​​​​​And it makes sense. Play to your strengths. He is a harder puncher so focus on power. It just didn't have the sophistication.

      As for Bivols success with offense, he is probably hard to read since he throws his punches more constrained like amateurs than pros and Canelo was probably surprised how much it hurt him Still.

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      • Tanakasensei
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        #13
        Seeing bivol box however is like watching paint dry

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        • Tanakasensei
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          #14
          Originally posted by HeadShots
          i don't think size is the reason Bivol won btw. I honestly believe Canelo is heavier on fight night than Bivol. Bivol doesn't cut much and Canelo doesn't reveal fight night weight for a reason.


          With that said, Bivol is simply noticeably faster than Canelo and can throw in 10 punch combos at long range like Manny Pacquiao. it's a very unique ability that only few in boxing have.

          Bivol is not only faster and has better balance, agility and combos.

          Bivol also has a stronger gas tank. He put Canelo on the treadmill up hill and ran Canelo out of gas.
          ​​​​​BIvol didn't really throw faster punches but they came direct and straight and so they were perceived to be faster. They also didn't allow for Canelo to counter precisely because they were borderline arm punches..

          ​​​​​​It is strange to see an elite boxer like Canelo stuck spamming hooks round after round. That usually means the fighter has no answer and is too tired to solve the puzzle.



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          • Superbee
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            #15
            Originally posted by Tanakasensei

            I don't think Bivol has more natural ability than Canelo. If he did he wouldn't lose 3 rounds in a row.
            Bivol is a Machine... He does everything well, right by the Soviet book... That's also why he lacks glitters... He's still a Living "How-to" for technique... Advantage Bivol..

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              #16
              Originally posted by Tanakasensei

              That usually means the fighter has no answer and is too tired to solve the puzzle.

              And that's exactly what happened... Except that Canelo wasn't even in the fight pass the 3rd round ... He wasn't tired then... Just overwhelmed ... You could feel his frustration in the 2nd part of the fight ...

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              • HeadShots
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                #17
                Originally posted by Tanakasensei

                ​​​​​BIvol didn't really throw faster punches but they came direct and straight and so they were perceived to be faster. They also didn't allow for Canelo to counter precisely because they were borderline arm punches..

                ​​​​​​It is strange to see an elite boxer like Canelo stuck spamming hooks round after round. That usually means the fighter has no answer and is too tired to solve the puzzle.





                of u can't see Bivol is faster then


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                • El_Mero
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Tanakasensei

                  The first three. I think Canelo got 4 rounds in total. Which is a disaster. But it's not like Bivol threw bombs. Pretty dry, unspectacular fighter...
                  For being dry and unspectacular, he made Alvarez look basic af.

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                  • ramses07
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by El_Mero

                    For being dry and unspectacular, he made Alvarez look basic af.
                    I mean, that tends to happen with dry and unspectular fighters.

                    Ehhh weight matter, idc what anybody says. Canelo really should be at 160, dude is mad short. Bivol is also a really good fighter. Canelo also came in acting like he was a puncher lol.

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                    • JakeTheBoxer
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                      #20
                      OP obviously doesn`t respect Bivol`s skills, but Canelo lost to a better man. Ginger is overrated.

                      Explanation: Canelo has good skills, but he has a very bad gas tank, slow feet, and he is a power puncher, who likes to counter.

                      He will always lose to a great outside hitter with a good stamina and a work rate.
                      Last edited by JakeTheBoxer; 09-20-2023, 03:22 AM.

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