Comments Thread For: Joyce: I Maybe Underestimated Zhang A Little Bit, Thought I Would Get Him Out In Later Rounds

[James]

Joyce will knock out the Chinaman.

Many things can happen but this is not one of them.

[_Rexy_]

he didn't get stopped stopped. His face just broke. The doctor stopped it. If he doesn't defend punches with his face, bit of head movement... he can win this fight and put that L behind him.

He got stopped. The doctor stopping it is still getting stopped.

[mlac]

He got stopped. The doctor stopping it is still getting stopped.

Who you got for the rematch bud?

[Knuckle sandwich]

Who you got for the rematch bud?

Frank Warren

[57Blues]

Win or lose, I admire Joe. After the damage he took in the first fight, imagine the guts it takes to go back in against the same opponent knowing threre's a good chance your eye is going to get screwed up again.

I'd like to believe Joe can make the adjustments to get the revenge W, but I'm not sure I do believe it. Good luck to him though.

maybe just maybe the adjustment is not learning the head movement and defense so much as it is do damage and do it early and often....: ? just a thought being the other skills do not come easy to him and take time time he may not have.........

[Bob]

I think JJ over thinks his preparations against his ability.

His previous fight against Parker he came in at his heaviest ever & looked like the juggernaut with his best performance to date.
The Zhang fight he took off a stone!! What for speed? Are you kidding!! & like a Brazeale led with his face to his detriment.

If JJ comes in heavy & crude he could as we all predicted fight 1 win late, but if he's light again lightning might strike twice..... & Canelo winning the first 4 xD

[James]

I think JJ over thinks his preparations against his ability.

His previous fight against Parker he came in at his heaviest ever & looked like the juggernaut with his best performance to date.
The Zhang fight he took off a stone!! What for speed? Are you kidding!! & like a Brazeale led with his face to his detriment.

If JJ comes in heavy & crude he could as we all predicted fight 1 win late, but if he's light again lightning might strike twice..... & Canelo winning the first 4 xD

I do not think that his weight can change something. He has no defence. Zhang has fast hands and every time when he comes close to Zhang he will be punished. Regarding Parker, he does not have power like Zhang. Zhang is monster. But I believe that JJ can win on points if he survives.

[Bullrider]

How would you have gotten him out in the later rounds when you were already groggy and about to fall yourself?

[N/A]

"I maybe underestimated Zhang a bit" - haha! Joyce is a one-dimensional straight-line jumping like a happy little pony, taking all the punishment with his head. With this approach it is not about underestimation, but a limited approach to boxing with a very little to none IQ and adaptability.

[hugh grant]

Well, you can see it 2 ways. Joyce knew Zhangs pedigree, saw how he arguably best flip, so trained his hardest to best zhang, so in that sense didn't underestimate zhang.
But that he thought he'd best zhang, and didnt, I guess means did underestimate him if Joyce predicted wrong outcome. If Joyce predicted Zhang to win, that's not underestimating, or overating. But getting it spot on