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  • allen23
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    #31
    Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
    If you look at names Canelo beats he looks like ATG, but if you know how many of those he aged or should have lost to and that is were things get shaken. He bets a Demi is he’s Kov, fought no one that is really top dog at 168, needing trickery to get David stripped and ducking him, and his only legit 160 wins were against guys he dragged up.
    As much as I'm not a canelo lover you still have to put credit on his name, he's always dared to be great. At 23 he fights Floyd and he fought his way through the divisions fighting the likes of cotto, Lara, kovalev, ggg, bivol. In an age where the best don't always fight the best he's always stepped up. Before bivol I was under the impression you had to knock him out to win as the judges will always swing him rounds and even tho he only won 1-2 rounds they still made it a close fight. Scandalous

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    • Oregonian
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      #32
      Originally posted by allen23

      I don't think anybody beats prime rjj, i think he would struggle against prime roy and James Toneey but apart from that he's game for anyone - including andre ward or canelo.
      it's hard to say why it's the case with genetics - I remember seeing a documentary on why Jamaica produces all the best sprinters in the world, and a little village in kenya which produced over 50% of the long distance olympic medalists from the country. Also i think for a sport like boxing growing up in a poor social background is the sort of breeding ground that will produce champions. Marvin haglers silk sheets comment still rings true today. Some kids grow up sleeping in silk sheets so how can they ever hsve the hunger to go through the grind the same way a poor child in philly will sleeping on a dirty mattress with no real opportunities other than a boxing gym.
      lots of variables of course, but again you don't see a white man with the slow twitch movement of roy Jones, or that can glide in the air like Michael Jordan

      Nice to have an honest, productive conversation on this site normally it's knuckleheads spewing hate to back their fighters
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      Funny you mention Andre Ward because I believe Calzaghe would have overwhelmed Ward with punches in bunches. Calzaghe beats Ward at 168 or 175.
      Calzaghe’s work rate for a super middleweight was otherworldly.

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