Comments Thread For: Jermell Charlo: "I'm Amongst The Hall of Famers Already"

[SweetPbfAli]

Jermaine Taylor & O'Neil Bell both were undisputed champions but neither is in the hall of fame.

To be fair to Mell, those guys were kind of flash in the pan types. Mell has had more stability during his run at 154 than those guys had. Had some bumps in the road but that's expected. He righted his close calls and losses conclusively as well.

[Silence]

They gonna put TS into in HoF. He doesn't deserve that place but they gonna do it. We all know that.

Winning a few world championship belts are enough to be HoF nowadays. Especially for black dossers.

[unknowledgeablepugilist]

To be fair to Mell, those guys were kind of flash in the pan types. Mell has had more stability during his run at 154 than those guys had. Had some bumps in the road but that's expected. He righted his close calls and losses conclusively as well.

Yes, but I was just pointing out certain undisputed champions haven't gotten into the hall of fame. Although, I don't think Charlo's career is any better than Judah, Taylor or Spinks.

[Jab jab boom]

I couldn't disagree more.

Jermell's route to undisputed at 154lbs:

Tony Harrison (at the second time of asking)
Jeison Rosario
Brian Castano (also at the second time of asking)

Canelo's route to undisputed at 168lbs:

Callum Smith
Billy Joe Saunders
Caleb Plant

There's a sizeable gap in the cumulative quality of those opponents if you ask me. In fact I'd argue that any one of those three names Canelo faced would each themselves have beaten Jermell's three opponents and become undisputed at 154lbs if they were at that weight.

There are many things you can criticise Canelo for throughout his career but his run at 168lbs isn't one of them. He does need to fight Benavidez though.

Stop it, what is the size able gap based on? Who did any of those 3 guys at 168 ever beat? Let me help you. Smiths biggest win was a 36 yr old groves who is best known for being splattered by Froch, Saunders who fought 1 time each year for about a decade, and best win is a toss up between Andy Lee and Lemieux, then plant whose best win was Uzcategui. It’s essentially the same level of como and Canelo’s decision to go to 68 was mainly because it was such a weak division, especially since Benavidez was conveniently out of the picture and especially in comparison to 160. The worst competition he faced in his career was in that weight class (compared to jmw, mw and lhw) and it’s not even close.

[tkoboxingscene]

Tim Bradley is in there because he unquestionably deserves to be in there. I won't even dignify it by breaking it down other than to say that Tim's resume is an entire galaxy beyond Charlo's. Charlo beat Tony Harrison and Brian Castaño, horray. And he lost to both in the 1st fights (Castaño was robbed the 1st time) and still today the best name on his resume comes from beating an aged Austin Trout 100 years ago. If he whoops Canelo or gives an epic account of himself, and then wins one more big fight then we can start talking about it.

Tim Bradley got a gift decision after getting his ass handed to him by Pacquiao. His best win is provodnikov. That's pretty questionable

[SweetPbfAli]

Yes, but I was just pointing out certain undisputed champions haven't gotten into the hall of fame. Although, I don't think Charlo's career is any better than Judah, Taylor or Spinks.

Got it. Are Judah and Spinks best wins, each other?

[SweetPbfAli]

Tim Bradley got a gift decision after getting his ass handed to him by Pacquiao. His best win is provodnikov. That's pretty questionable

Nah. Junior Witter, Kendall Holt, and Devon were really good wins, especially in the context of when they happened.

Also, like it or not, he has an official win over Manny. Manny whiffed a lot in the 2nd half of that fight and Tim did a great job of countering, especially to the body. Fans always overreact to Manny's flurries and it influences the commentary which influence the viewers.

[Zaroku]

Jermell has a point. Name an undisputed champion who did not make the Hall of Fame..

Butler ??

[gooderz84]

Tim Bradley got a gift decision after getting his ass handed to him by Pacquiao. His best win is provodnikov. That's pretty questionable

oh man memory triggered!!! Bradley Provodnikov!!! Top scrap that one!!!