Naoya Inoue Is The Best And Most Skilled Fighter In Boxing...

[hugh grant]

No I said he struggled with Donaire so he’s not “far more dominant” than Bud like the OP suggested.

Well, inou e could be described as more dominant as he's 4 division champ in far less time

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Well, inou e could be described as more dominant as he's 4 division champ in far less time

What does that have to do with dominance?

By that logic Loma is the most dominant fighter of all time as he became a 3 division champion in like 12 fights.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Dominance is either defending against all the top guys in a division (and Inoue cleaned out bantamweight), or making it look easy against top competition. Every Inoue fight except the one has looked like an Inoue fight. He imposes his style and will on every fighter, and it doesn't matter what style they bring. The one "outlier" he redeemed by second round KO, and that outlier required him to fight 10 rounds with a broken orbital. How many other champs can you think of who fought the top guys in their divisional debut?

I looked through the careers of the 50 odd guys who made it to be at least 3 division champs, and the guys who did take on top competition in their divisional debuts are all ATG's, and many of them lost some of those fights. Inoue has one of the highest percentage of champions and top ranked opponents of anyone in boxing, especially to still maintain an undefeated record while climbing the divisions. Dunno about being more dominant than Bud. I don't really like putting one fighter down to raise another one up. It would be interesting to see which of them has lost more rounds though. Both are amazing talents though.

[hugh grant]

What does that have to do with dominance?

By that logic Loma is the most dominant fighter of all time as he became a 3 division champion in like 12 fights.

But Loma has struggled and lost and stalled recently, so he was seen as pfp no1'ish, until recently that is.
Doesn't inou e basically becoming no1 superbantam in his 1st fight and bud taking 5 years at WW count in your opinion? Am I missing something maybe? Or showing bias maybe? I don't think so, I'm trying to make it an even playing field, like for like. If Inkues 4 division champ, id like bud to do exactly the same, nothing more or less. And if he doesnt id like to know reason why?

[BenjaminLinus]

Dominance is either defending against all the top guys in a division (and Inoue cleaned out bantamweight), or making it look easy against top competition. Every Inoue fight except the one has looked like an Inoue fight. He imposes his style and will on every fighter, and it doesn't matter what style they bring. The one "outlier" he redeemed by second round KO, and that outlier required him to fight 10 rounds with a broken orbital. How many other champs can you think of who fought the top guys in their divisional debut?

I looked through the careers of the 50 odd guys who made it to be at least 3 division champs, and the guys who did take on top competition in their divisional debuts are all ATG's, and many of them lost some of those fights. Inoue has one of the highest percentage of champions and top ranked opponents of anyone in boxing, especially to still maintain an undefeated record while climbing the divisions. Dunno about being more dominant than Bud. I don't really like putting one fighter down to raise another one up. It would be interesting to see which of them has lost more rounds though. Both are amazing talents though.

Inoue's been FAR more dominant than Crawford.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Inoue's been FAR more dominant than Crawford.

I'm not here to disagree with you. There's a very vocal crowd that will say that Crawford fought against better competition, despite there being no real way to compare.

But after his next fight, Inoue will have been in 21 title fights of 26 (80.8% of his career will be title fights), and 13 of those (50%) will be against world champions, across 5 weight divisions. I can't think of ANYONE who has fought essentially nothing but the best available competition for that percentage of their career, especially without losing. Would need a boxing historian to tell me if there's been someone else who took on the consensus best guy in their divisional debut as many times as Inoue and still came out undefeated. Maybe Mayweather?

I'm not here to take anything away from Crawford, but if Inoue pulls off another win against Tapales, that's already a legendary career.

[_Rexy_]

It's 1A/1B IMO.


But nobody has been more dominant than Inoue. During his time at 118, he only lost 3 rounds (all with a broken orbital)

Hell, I'm struggling to think of when he lost rounds before the first Donaire fight. If he was an American fighter at a higher weight class, he'd be the face of boxing

[just the facts]

Inoue's been FAR more dominant than Crawford.

Agenda driven bu!!shyte. If you think Inoue is a better fighter, okay but don’t make up shyte to prove your point.

For me quality of opposition tells the story. Inoue just beat Fulton and that’s a quality win but absolutely nobody has Fulton top 15, let alone top 5. Crawford just beat Spence who was in every legitimate top 5. IMO, Inoue hasn’t beaten a fighter as good as Shawn Porter let alone Errol Spence. Not saying he couldn’t just that he hasn’t.