Chavez Jr. Eager To Impress on Pacquiao-Cotto Card

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  • CottoKOsPacman
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    #31
    Originally posted by prsi
    I must admit that JCCJ has fought bums and is yet to be proven.
    But know that he want's to fight Martinez and prove himself people here say he doesn't deserve to fight him. Whether we want him to prove himself or not??

    True that he didn't have an amateur background so they were building him in pro, similar to the current P4P king Manny Pacquiao.

    Did everybody forget that Pacman had somthing like 39 or 40 victories with 1 defeat against bums, until he fought Barrera and actually won and look how great that career turned out.

    I'm not a fan of JCCJ and by any means I'm saying that he will have the same success as Manny, actually I'm one of the people that beleive he should start to fight good competition to prove himself.

    The fight with Martinez can show us who really JCCJ is or will be in the wolrd of Boxing.
    u also have a point, i wasnt aware that he didnt have any amateur experience so i guess it makes a little sense on the way arums bringing him along then.

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    • zalez787
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      #32
      Originally posted by Iceta
      I'm getting tired of hearing the excuse that Chavez Jr. doesn't have that many amateur fights. There are plenty of fighters who that is true with. Look at Paul Williams. The reason that Arum won't throw this kid in a dangerous fight is he's not that good. End of story.

      Is that guy on the avatar from the novelas the one talking or is that you , cuz either way , its pretty ****ing dumb. i got some for you www.peopleenespanol.com , or just watch telemundo ang go watch la liga mexicana de soccer or something

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      • chinoy
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        #33
        Hmm...this could be a big PPV draw to the huge mexican fans in the US.....I still prefer to watch Valero

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        • pugay_kamay
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          #34
          Originally posted by ^FoX
          You know because he follow the steps of his father fighting bums !
          Yeah after robbing Pernell, Sr. ran into ODLH and got busted twice!

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          • pugay_kamay
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            #35
            Originally posted by prsi
            I must admit that JCCJ has fought bums and is yet to be proven.
            But know that he want's to fight Martinez and prove himself people here say he doesn't deserve to fight him. Whether we want him to prove himself or not??

            True that he didn't have an amateur background so they were building him in pro, similar to the current P4P king Manny Pacquiao.

            Did everybody forget that Pacman had somthing like 39 or 40 victories with 1 defeat against bums, until he fought Barrera and actually won and look how great that career turned out.

            I'm not a fan of JCCJ and by any means I'm saying that he will have the same success as Manny, actually I'm one of the people that beleive he should start to fight good competition to prove himself.

            The fight with Martinez can show us who really JCCJ is or will be in the wolrd of Boxing.
            I agree with what have you said, except for the highlighted. I don't think if ever JCC Jr will be successful can be compared to what has Pacman did in his career. He is a multi division champion and being a champion i believe you are not fighting bums or taxi drivers, coz u have to defeat the champions themselves to become one.

            Did JCC Jr. fought a legitimate contender in his division?

            JCC Jr. should not be pampered anymore, along the way he will get spanked and nobody can tell that, until such time he fight a real contender in his division.

            If ever JCC Jr. will get a change to fight Martinez, it shouldn't be in Mexico. Otherwise, it will be a hometown decision unless Martinez KO JCC jr. On the otherhand, even if the fight will happen in the US, Martinez should at least dominate JCC Jr. or KO preferably, otherwise he will be robbed.

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            • prsi
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              #36
              Originally posted by prsi
              by any means I'm saying that he will have the same success as Manny .

              Originally posted by pugay_kamay
              I agree with what have you said, except for the highlighted. I don't think if ever JCC Jr will be successful can be compared to what has Pacman did in his career. He is a multi division champion and being a champion i believe you are not fighting bums or taxi drivers, coz u have to defeat the champions themselves to become one.

              Did JCC Jr. fought a legitimate contender in his division?

              JCC Jr. should not be pampered anymore, along the way he will get spanked and nobody can tell that, until such time he fight a real contender in his division.

              If ever JCC Jr. will get a change to fight Martinez, it shouldn't be in Mexico. Otherwise, it will be a hometown decision unless Martinez KO JCC jr. On the otherhand, even if the fight will happen in the US, Martinez should at least dominate JCC Jr. or KO preferably, otherwise he will be robbed.
              I beleive you mis undestood what I wrote. I clearly said "by any means I'm saying that he will have the same success as Manny" which means that I'm not saying he will have the same suying that he will have the same success.
              Pacquiao is an ATG great and I was just making reference to their 1st 39 or 40 fights of their career on which both were fighting class B, C or even D fighters until Pacman fought Barrera. Pacquiao cleary started to write his name as a hall of famer after that. JCCJ is yet to start and we never know how good will he be until several year have passed and he starts fighting proven competetion.

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              • Jamel H
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                #37
                Originally posted by Iceta
                I'm getting tired of hearing the excuse that Chavez Jr. doesn't have that many amateur fights. There are plenty of fighters who that is true with. Look at Paul Williams. The reason that Arum won't throw this kid in a dangerous fight is he's not that good. End of story.
                agreed

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                • Perroskis
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by pugay_kamay
                  Yeah after robbing Pernell, Sr. ran into ODLH and got busted twice!
                  your dumbass forgot to mention that chavez was past his prime when he fought ODLH he was like 35 or somewhere around there

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