1988 Mike Tyson vs Usyk. Who Wins?

[Pac=Duran]

Mike was way off for Japan with all the partying drugs and major jet lag

And as far as Fury and Lennox.when mike was really at full speed the prime of his life he would be able to close the distance and avoid those big jabs to land his own mustard

Personally think he would ko both fury and Lennox in his absolute prime

By the time Lennox fought him he didn't have the foot speed or head movement but in his absolute prime that uppercut Lewis landed on tyson trying to get inside would be landing

Everyone makes every excuse in the book for Mike at all times because he was a cultural phenomenon and got so many guys into boxing. Evander beat his ****ing head in when he was 30 years old, yeah after his jail stint but so what? He had 4 fights to tune up after jail, before he fought Evander.

mike was into partying coke and hookers when he was a young man, then **** the bed and bit off Evander’s ear in their second fight. What does that tell you? He’s mentally unstable and probably never had the temperament for it.

no way he would ever beat Fury and Lennox.

mike was caught lackin way too many times. Usyk could def beat him.

The facts are that Mike was destroyed twice in his prime by Buster and Evander.

[elfag]

Holyfield fought on the inside against Tyson. put his head on Tyson's chest trading body shots

Usyk doesn't fight like that.

this and holyfield had an iron jaw. i dont know that usyk can take mikes shots, he sure as *** dont like body shots and he hasnt really taken too many head shots other than being buzzed by AJ once

[elfag]

Tyson convincingly, dont see usyks style matching up well against him

yeah usky likes to control distance and Tyson has quick feet and closes the distance very fast, while not coming straight in but bobing and weaving changing levels. usyk wont have the control that he likes to have. Usyk's use of angles will be negated by tyson's squared up almost ambidextrous stance, tyson himself often caught guys off angle after ducking under a punch when he comes up to counter he is off on their side. Tysons style and speed/agility/athleticism is too much for usyk. Usyk is better off with someone who will try to box him convetinally.

[tophat1]

yeah usky likes to control distance and Tyson has quick feet and closes the distance very fast, while not coming straight in but bobing and weaving changing levels. usyk wont have the control that he likes to have. Usyk's use of angles will be negated by tyson's squared up almost ambidextrous stance, tyson himself often caught guys off angle after ducking under a punch when he comes up to counter he is off on their side. Tysons style and speed/agility/athleticism is too much for usyk. Usyk is better off with someone who will try to box him convetinally.

Great breakdown of how the fight plays out

[QueensburyRules]

this and holyfield had an iron jaw. i dont know that usyk can take mikes shots, he sure as *** dont like body shots and he hasnt really taken too many head shots other than being buzzed by AJ once

- - Usyk beats the shot Tyson that the shot Field fought, and Field too.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I see some folk saying things like? If Usyk could just survive the opening assault, then he could do this and that.

Did the opening assault stop vs Razor Ruddock I & II ? Did the opening assault stop vs Tony Tucker ? Did Mike Tyson disappear vs Evander Holyfield I after 3 rounds? No.

On his worst night, did Mike Tyson disappear vs Buster Douglas after 3 rounds? No, he effectively knocked him out in the 8th round 'To Buster Douglas's credit, he got up from a knock out blow, I am not discrediting Buster Douglas for his overall performance'.

I understand why people say these things, people kid themselves 'Tell themselves fairy-tales about Mike Tyson's ability. The best one is, apparently you only had to stand up to him and survive the opening assault'.

We have seen Usyk bashed up vs Joshua & Chisora, bashed up as in 'Physically damaged'.

Mike Tyson was inflicting damage on his opponents which would traumatize most boxers 'This is not a good fight for Usyk stylistically'.

One thing people don't seem to mention, is that Mike Tyson's durability was elite. Mike Tyson was never decked with a single punch, and as I have mentioned in my previous post 'Whether at the peak of his form or even in the latter stages of his career? His opponents were forced unleash heavy sustained bombardment in order to deck him momentarily'.

And we are talking about Heavyweight fighters and super Heavyweights.

Mike Tyson always even if all of his loses rose up off the deck 'It took 28-30 punch combination for a 260 + Heavyweight in Danny Williams, to deck a injured Mike Tyson'.

The version of Mike Tyson who fought Razor Ruddock I & II would beat Usyk 'Usyk would do best against the Mike Tyson from 2001 and on wards'.

Note: Mike Tyson has no bad loses on his resume. He fought hard in all of his fights, and it took a career best performance from his opponents to win 'If you compare Mike Tyson's loses to some other all-time great fighters loses, then you will understand what I am talking about. There was always flashes of Iron Mike Tyson, there was always bad intentions 'It never totally disappeared'.

Usually in the latter part of great fighters careers, that fighter sometimes become unrecognizable 'For me this never happened with Mike Tyson, which was why people were captivated and always believed he was a threat'.

I rate Usyk within this era of Heavyweights extremely highly 'Usyk is currently a top-3 rated Pound for pound fighter'. But I have not seen the abilities as of yet 'Which prove to me that he can beat many other all-time great Heavyweights with his current tactics and game plan. For Heavyweights of this era, with their bad conditioning and lack of inside game? Usyk may well beat them, but Heavyweights of other era's 'I actually think those fights would be more difficult for him'.

Usyk is winning most of his Heavyweights fights 70% due to his superior endurance, and basic fundamentals from mid-long range game. I rate the man, but we know he can be taken out of this game plan 'Mike Tyson in my opinion has all the skills, attributes and attitude to take him out of that game plan. Surviving vs Mike Tyson is not the same as surviving vs Chisora & Dubois' etc.

[satiev1]

Tyson eats him up easily.

[satiev1]

holyfield boxed his ears off as payment for having his bit off, mike won most fights before the bell sounded not with evander he feared no man, mike had the power to take anyone out but real fighters like evander just took it to him and mike would fold, if ursk could handle his power he is in with a boxers chance, good boxing and no fear such as douglas was mikes kryptonite.

that wasn't 1988 tyson

[JakeTheBoxer]

his arms are too short to box with Gypsy King

It doesn`t matter. Mike would destroy him inside.

[HeadShots]

It doesn`t matter. Mike would destroy him inside.

Mike is like a deer in headlights when he gets clinched. he legit relaxes and looks at the ref.


Holyfield beat him twice with clinches. this is the blue print to beating Tyson. smother his work.

Lennox used the clinch to not only smother his offense, used it to lean on him. he leaned Tyson into the ground.

Tyson Fury would smother Tyson's work easily.