Comments Thread For: De La Hoya on Ryan Garcia: We Have a Date For Him In November; [A 140-Pound Belt] Can Possibly Be at Stake

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  • War Room
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    #11
    I don't thinnk Ryan's chin can hang at 140.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #12
      I would do a Ryan v Rolly fight just for the sheer comedy of Rolly degrading him all the way up to the fight.

      Otherwise, its Teo or Matias. So it would be Teo because Matias could destroy him physically and mentally.

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        #13
        Let's not forget that Rolly got his 140 lb title shot as a divisional debut after losing to Tank Davis by KO. Apparently getting knocked out by Tank is now the fastest way to a 140lb title shot with the WBA.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Bronx2245
          First of all, someone please explain how Ryan Garcia, coming off a KO loss, is Ranked #4 by the WBA? Secondly, how could the WBA justify Ryan skipping over Kenneth Sims Jr,, who just beat Batyr Akhmedov in a WBA Title eliminator? I can't see any path that Garcia gets a title shot in his next fight! Maybe Oscar can call Arum for a Teofimo Lopez fight?
          This might shock you, but its true I promise you. These ABC Groups that run the belts & rankings are....wait for it......corrupt.

          Cmon bruh you know this. Why do ppl KEEP acting surprised when these corrupt groups do some corrupt group sheeeeeeeet.

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            #15
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            I would do a Ryan v Rolly fight just for the sheer comedy of Rolly degrading him all the way up to the fight.

            Otherwise, its Teo or Matias. So it would be Teo because Matias could destroy him physically and mentally.
            I'd bet its Ohara for a newly vacant or interim belt. I think thats why they keep pushing back this Rolly **** & have even gone past their own deadline now.

            I doubt GBP would make another Ryan vs PBC guy fight & I doubt you can trust Teo for more than 15mins to agree to a fight not to mention thats a cross promotion fight too. Ohara just signed with GBP. There's a reason for that & its probably cuz he's Ryan's next opp.

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            • Boxfan83
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              #16
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              First of all, someone please explain how Ryan Garcia, coming off a KO loss, is Ranked #4 by the WBA? Secondly, how could the WBA justify Ryan skipping over Kenneth Sims Jr,, who just beat Batyr Akhmedov in a WBA Title eliminator? I can't see any path that Garcia gets a title shot in his next fight! Maybe Oscar can call Arum for a Teofimo Lopez fight?
              Probably the same way Rolly got a title shot coming off a loss then getting a gift stoppage. $ talks BS walks.

              I honestly dont think Garcia is still a draw like people assume he will be. The only fight I see doing well would be Garcia vs. Lopez.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Boxfan83

                Probably the same way Rolly got a title shot coming off a loss then getting a gift stoppage. $ talks BS walks.

                I honestly dont think Garcia is still a draw like people assume he will be. The only fight I see doing well would be Garcia vs. Lopez.

                Ryan is definitely a draw. Tank does $20M or less in all his PPV's & does 5x that when he fights Ryan. That boost isn't all off of Tank's back. Some of that is Ryan's ticket/PPV selling ability.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas


                  Ryan is definitely a draw. Tank does $20M or less in all his PPV's & does 5x that when he fights Ryan. That boost isn't all off of Tank's back. Some of that is Ryan's ticket/PPV selling ability.

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                  He WAS a draw. I dont think he draws like that again. A fight with Teo may get the casuals and some boxing fans interested but he doesnt do numbers like that again.

                  I did think De La Hoya was smart to try to get Ryan a fight with Manny after Davis. A win over a legend wouldve put Ryan back into the publics eye. But the lil narcissist refusal has him bobbing Floyds nobs for YouTube shorts views.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas


                    Ryan is definitely a draw. Tank does $20M or less in all his PPV's & does 5x that when he fights Ryan. That boost isn't all off of Tank's back. Some of that is Ryan's ticket/PPV selling ability.

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                    Anyways Panda, how you been man? I seen you post the other day and realized its been a minute...

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Boxfan83

                      He WAS a draw. I dont think he draws like that again. A fight with Teo may get the casuals and some boxing fans interested but he doesnt do numbers like that again.

                      I did think De La Hoya was smart to try to get Ryan a fight with Manny after Davis. A win over a legend wouldve put Ryan back into the publics eye. But the lil narcissist refusal has him bobbing Floyds nobs for YouTube shorts views.
                      What?!?! Ryan didn't get unpopular cuz he lost. His fans don't gaf he lost. And his fans are mostly casual fans from the jump, he doesn't need to do anything to get them interested per se.

                      Obviously the bigger the fight the bigger the response from his fans & fans of boxing too, but whatever level Ryan is fighting at he'll bring in a nice percentage of fans who dgaf about boxing they gaf about him.

                      And Ryan isn't out of the publics eye lol. Dude is on social media all the time for his fans thats why he gots fans from outside of boxing in the first place. Dude has more IG followers (10M) than Tank (6M), Golden Boy (1M), Oscar (1M) combined ffs.

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