Comments Thread For: Bellew: When Going Gets Tough, Brook Looks For a Way Out - Dubois is The Same

[Boro]

OK, i've been far too nice regarding this ridiculous conversation. You're an idiot, plain and simple. Why? I'll tell you.

"You're a quitter when you've got every reason to continue and no reason not to and choose not to, this might of been his one and only opportunity to fight for a title AND he's spewed it before as bellend said once you've quit once it's easier to do it going forward."

This is your quote on Dubois in the Usyk fight. Take a look at the part where you say he could have continued but chose not to. What does that mean to anyone with a brain? It means you think he took the full 10 count and quit. When you realised you were wrong, to save face, you then pretended it was due to not going after the knock out after Usyk had plenty of time to recover. But that opened a whole new can of worms as most fighters at one time or another could be accused of quitting. I'm not doing that as it is extreme and toxic. But you're an idiot as can be clearly seen but you want to play games like all the other weirdo's on here.

You called be delusional in post 49 on page 5. You called me delusional again in post 53 on page 6. Maybe read what you're writing, ******.

As for pulling on AJ's belt line. You made it out like he was pulling him out of the corner. He wasn't doing any such thing. When he touched his belt, you clearly see him giving a "Slight" pull and a "Slight" push. Why would a ref pull someone out of the corner only to push them back into it a second later if that is what he was supposedly doing? Duh! Ref's are supposed to give clear and precise instructions. He never once verbally asked him to leave the corner. He never once used his hands to motion to come out of the corner. All he did was place his hands on his belt line and give a slight push and pull. But you've interpreted this as supposed instructions. No it isn't. It isn't clear in any way. That can bee seen with the naked eye. Not what you're imagining here with your fantasy.

As for thinking something strengthens your argument, it's best you actually provide the evidence to show that what you're saying is actually true. But here we are with nothing from you yet again. You'd do well in a court of law with everyone laughing at you and your backtracking and lack of evidence. "Trust me bro" even though you have an extreme definition of quitting, misrepresent simple things in whether a ref is giving instructions or not even though they make no sense as pulling someone out of a corner then pushing them back into it a second later will be seen by those who aren't ******, as making no f3cking sense what-so-ever. Forget that the ref doesn't speak of any of these instructions the way a ref is supposed to. No, come up with your own story and madness instead. That will do. Haha.

Look, f3ckoff now. But after you do, look at your posts i've written down and see you're wrong again on who insulted who first. Then read your quote until you realise what an idiot you are as it's clear what you meant. As if you choose to not continue like you wrote, it clearly means you saying he didn't make the 10 count. Duh.

You don't have to even take a count to quit, I explained this previously and you decided to interpret it in your own warped sense of reality.

Like I said your either ****** or intentionally being disingenuous, either way I couldn't give a fúck at this point, you're clearly far to ignorant to have a conversation with and we're just looping at this point.

Quite frankly I'm sick of you and I'm not surprised that everyone who converses with you on this site fúcking hates dealing with you, you're a disgrace who lives in your own little world.

Why wouldn't I call you delusional, it's the behaviour and attitude you've exhibited throughout this engagement.

The ref was talking to him the whole time he was in the corner, like I've said multiple times. Your refusal to accept reality doesn't make it any less real.

I couldn't care less about proving anything relating to Dubois and his propensity to quit, it's evident in the two fights he's spewed it in.

And like I said, I'm not looking across multiple videos/sites for someone who's clearly in denial about AJ/Dubois and everything relating to any British fighters quite frankly.

As for your ****** accusation of backtracking, don't make me laugh. My position has been the same throughout, I've changed nothing.

In fact you're the one who's changed position, you initially denied AJ even having his belt tugged on then you changed your mind, then went on to contradict it in the very same post.

You clearly aren't the sharpest tool in the shed and have no real strong position, you're just defending people you díck ride for, it's actually quite pathetic when I think about it.

And I certainly won't change my opinion from a conversation with a fangirl who's consistently engaged in bad faith and doesn't actually deal in facts but feelings.

Sorry but I tend to need rational arguments to sway my opinion son...

I love how emotional you've got. It's very cute, it's only a back and forth son.

As for your idiotic shít about law, firstly as i’ve pointed out above my position hasn’t changed and there has been no backtracking whatsoever.

And as I pointed out it strengthens the case, it’s not necessary he’s (Dubois) already displayed a propensity to quit, plain and simple.

And secondly to address AJ even if the ref wasn’t constantly talking to AJ, nonverbal communication is perfectly valid in law, you imbecile.

If you’re going to try and appeal to law and try to emphasis on try and think you’ve got me somehow at the very least know what you’re talking about.

otherwise you just further the case for how braindead you actually are.

[Sid-Knee]

Here is a better video that proves my point, you STOOGE. At 5:58, you can read the ref's lips as he says "eight", "nine". After the ref counts 9, Dubious begins to rise from one knee. At that point, the ref waves off the fight because it seemed to him that DD and did not wish to continue. Daniel Dubious QUIT. He could have gotten up long before the count reached five, let alone nine.

I've just illustrated that which is obvious to anyone with a brain, which is that under fire, the average UK fighter will find a way to QUIT.

Watch the video below starting at 5:50. You will see that your boy rose AFTER the ref counted 9. Now go away and take your meds, STOOGE!

https://*************/watch?v=mLSfRO...xpZ2h0cw%3D%3D

You quit when you beat the count? Haha. Yeah, of course you do.

Do you want me to dominate you again on which country has the most quitters? I'm talking actual quitters. Not desperate people going around and claiming so due to insecurities. Your biggest problem is, if Dubois is a quitter for getting up at 9, then that means anyone from your end who does likewise is also a quitter. See how that works?

Now come back with more entertainment for me. You never fail to keep me amused with your ******ity and desperation.

[Sid-Knee]

You don't have to even take a count to quit, I explained this previously and you decided to interpret it in your own warped sense of reality.

Like I said your either ****** or intentionally being disingenuous, either way I couldn't give a fúck at this point, you're clearly far to ignorant to have a conversation with and we're just looping at this point.

Quite frankly I'm sick of you and I'm not surprised that everyone who converses with you on this site fúcking hates dealing with you, you're a disgrace who lives in your own little world.

Why wouldn't I call you delusional, it's the behaviour and attitude you've exhibited throughout this engagement.

The ref was talking to him the whole time he was in the corner, like I've said multiple times. Your refusal to accept reality doesn't make it any less real.

I couldn't care less about proving anything relating to Dubois and his propensity to quit, it's evident in the two fights he's spewed it in.

And like I said, I'm not looking across multiple videos/sites for someone who's clearly in denial about AJ/Dubois and everything relating to any British fighters quite frankly.

As for your ****** accusation of backtracking, don't make me laugh. My position has been the same throughout, I've changed nothing.

In fact you're the one who's changed position, you initially denied AJ even having his belt tugged on then you changed your mind, then went on to contradict it in the very same post.

You clearly aren't the sharpest tool in the shed and have no real strong position, you're just defending people you díck ride for, it's actually quite pathetic when I think about it.

And I certainly won't change my opinion from a conversation with a fangirl who's consistently engaged in bad faith and doesn't actually deal in facts but feelings.

Sorry but I tend to need rational arguments to sway my opinion son...

I love how emotional you've got. It's very cute, it's only a back and forth son.

As for your idiotic shít about law, firstly as i’ve pointed out above my position hasn’t changed and there has been no backtracking whatsoever.

And as I pointed out it strengthens the case, it’s not necessary he’s (Dubois) already displayed a propensity to quit, plain and simple.

And secondly to address AJ even if the ref wasn’t constantly talking to AJ, nonverbal communication is perfectly valid in law, you imbecile.

If you’re going to try and appeal to law and try to emphasis on try and think you’ve got me somehow at the very least know what you’re talking about.

otherwise you just further the case for how braindead you actually are.

This is a the last post i'm wasting on you. But you need to be put straight.

You said i insulted you first. I factually proved you wrong. So what did you do, you had a paddy fit due to your ego and played your fallacies again.

"You're a quitter when you've got every reason to continue and no reason not to and choose not to, this might of been his one and only opportunity to fight for a title AND he's spewed it before as bellend said once you've quit once it's easier to do it going forward."

That is your comment i've quoted. You have repeatedly said you never mentioned any count. Well let's break it down for the simpleton shall we. When you claim someone chooses not to continue, it means they either quit outright, or decided to stay down on a count. The only option here for you and your comment is, the count. But here's the thing, Dubois did in fact beat the count which factually proves you're wrong. But you pretended otherwise. Even this pathetic reply is full of admittance with you trying to claim Dubois quit elsewhere to try and save face with your mass of fallacies. That is being dishonest.

If you try and claim the quote isn't about Dubois against Usyk, i point to the part where is says "This might of been his one and only opportunity to fight for a title. It can't be AJ you're talking about as he was the champion when facing Ruiz the first time and has a rematch clause to reinforce that point. It can't be Dubois against Joyce or Lerena because neither had a title on the line. So, who out there is a champion with the other fighting for their first title? Oh look, it's Usyk the champion and Dubois the challenger. It can't be any more clear what you said. But for page after page, you claimed otherwise.

A ref is supposed to give clear instructions. The ref in the AJ/Ruiz fight didn't. Not with his hands or verbally. But it gets even more ****** when you claim that the ref touching AJ's belt and giving it a pull then a push a second later, is the ref trying to get him out of the corner. I've already told you it doesn't make sense, but you STILL insist. The ref wanted him out of the corner then a second later wanted him back in it? Yeah, that's clear instructions right there. Silly me.

The reason why backwards people don't like dealing with me is due to me proving these narcissists wrong all the time and having them show all of their delusions. you're just another in a long line of idiots i've exposed and forced to backtrack and claim otherwise even though it's factually clear who is in the right and who is in the wrong. I don't give a f2ck about your ego nor your narratives. I only care about the truth and what stands up to scrutiny. You clearly have failed as the facts clearly show.

Don't worry, i don't expect you to show any evidence of clear instructions from the ref towards AJ in the Ruiz fight or the corner talk in the Dubois/Lerena fight. You can't back your bullshlt with facts so you deflect instead and give it the "Oh, i don't need to show any evidence or do this and that to prove my point blah blah blah". It works every time. Straight questions to an idiots comments shuts them down immediately. Without fail.

[BlackRobb]

You quit when you beat the count? Haha. Yeah, of course you do.

Do you want me to dominate you again on which country has the most quitters? I'm talking actual quitters. Not desperate people going around and claiming so due to insecurities. Your biggest problem is, if Dubois is a quitter for getting up at 9, then that means anyone from your end who does likewise is also a quitter. See how that works?

Now come back with more entertainment for me. You never fail to keep me amused with your ******ity and desperation.

All the QUITTERS seem to wear Union Jack trunks and drink cheap ale. You have a lot in common with them except that you wear Union Jack lingerie.

[Boro]

This is a the last post i'm wasting on you. But you need to be put straight.

You said i insulted you first. I factually proved you wrong. So what did you do, you had a paddy fit due to your ego and played your fallacies again.

"You're a quitter when you've got every reason to continue and no reason not to and choose not to, this might of been his one and only opportunity to fight for a title AND he's spewed it before as bellend said once you've quit once it's easier to do it going forward."

That is your comment i've quoted. You have repeatedly said you never mentioned any count. Well let's break it down for the simpleton shall we. When you claim someone chooses not to continue, it means they either quit outright, or decided to stay down on a count. The only option here for you and your comment is, the count. But here's the thing, Dubois did in fact beat the count which factually proves you're wrong. But you pretended otherwise. Even this pathetic reply is full of admittance with you trying to claim Dubois quit elsewhere to try and save face with your mass of fallacies. That is being dishonest.

If you try and claim the quote isn't about Dubois against Usyk, i point to the part where is says "This might of been his one and only opportunity to fight for a title. It can't be AJ you're talking about as he was the champion when facing Ruiz the first time and has a rematch clause to reinforce that point. It can't be Dubois against Joyce or Lerena because neither had a title on the line. So, who out there is a champion with the other fighting for their first title? Oh look, it's Usyk the champion and Dubois the challenger. It can't be any more clear what you said. But for page after page, you claimed otherwise.

A ref is supposed to give clear instructions. The ref in the AJ/Ruiz fight didn't. Not with his hands or verbally. But it gets even more ****** when you claim that the ref touching AJ's belt and giving it a pull then a push a second later, is the ref trying to get him out of the corner. I've already told you it doesn't make sense, but you STILL insist. The ref wanted him out of the corner then a second later wanted him back in it? Yeah, that's clear instructions right there. Silly me.

The reason why backwards people don't like dealing with me is due to me proving these narcissists wrong all the time and having them show all of their delusions. you're just another in a long line of idiots i've exposed and forced to backtrack and claim otherwise even though it's factually clear who is in the right and who is in the wrong. I don't give a f2ck about your ego nor your narratives. I only care about the truth and what stands up to scrutiny. You clearly have failed as the facts clearly show.

Don't worry, i don't expect you to show any evidence of clear instructions from the ref towards AJ in the Ruiz fight or the corner talk in the Dubois/Lerena fight. You can't back your bullshlt with facts so you deflect instead and give it the "Oh, i don't need to show any evidence or do this and that to prove my point blah blah blah". It works every time. Straight questions to an idiots comments shuts them down immediately. Without fail.

God I said already I'm bored of this conversation but since you're brain dead i'll clarify one last time.

No mention of the count despite you quoting and allegedly proving my intent laughable to say the least, he quit because he didn't get up when he could.

There is no deeper meaning behind it, you trying to pull abstract meaning from my alleged intent is redundant because there is none.

As you've proven many times throughout this conversation you're willing to conflate different parts of conversations to meet your own little deranged narrative so this alleged point doesn't even need addressing.

Yes he did give clear instructions (30:53), "Turn around, turn around, this is not a break lets go" whilst pulling on his belt, then he asks him after putting him back into the corner "you good to box?" and AJ says "yes" and despite saying yes just leans on the ropes and doesn't move, hence why the fight gets waved off and why people including me see him as swallowing it.

As I said previously the ref wanted him to move of his own volition not with his guidance/assistance, your refusal to accept this isn't on me, the video I linked has this very interaction on it despite your denial/downright ignorance.

The only backwards person here is you, you mentioned the ego so how would you figure you don't give a fúck about it talk about rétarded... stick to window licking instead of trying to engage in discourse it's not your forte boy.

I've told you numerous times I'm not trawling through multiple videos and sites to prove something to someone who refuses to accept the truth when it comes to AJ let alone Dubois, when you're clearly caping for Dubois harder than AJ it’s obviously an effort in futility.

It's beyond a waste of my time and like I said Dubois is a proven quitter I don't need to "prove" he was willing to quit in the Lerena fight he has a propensity to quit, despite how much you cape for him.

[deathofaclown]

I bet he's never talked about AJ spitting his gum shield out, not walking forward and letting the ref wave it off.


And Brook fought multiple rounds with a bad eye v GGG, his corner threw in the towel. Brook was taking shots and never once looked for the floor.

[Sid-Knee]

All the QUITTERS seem to wear Union Jack trunks and drink cheap ale. You have a lot in common with them except that you wear Union Jack lingerie.

Yeah, you clearly don't want to list the fighters and see who has the biggest pile. We both know how that ends.

[BlackRobb]

Yeah, you clearly don't want to list the fighters and see who has the biggest pile. We both know how that ends.

Each time you can't prove a point, you shift the onus of proving the point onto the other person. That's a very feminine deflection/gaslighting technique. Are you sure you're not a tr@nny?

[Sid-Knee]

Each time you can't prove a point, you shift the onus of proving the point onto the other person. That's a very feminine deflection/gaslighting technique. Are you sure you're not a tr@nny?

You're the one making the comment you idiot. How can asking you to support it be me putting the onus on you? Duh brain.

Now you're projecting your traits onto me with the gaslighting and the deflections. But hey, if you want to clown yourself with the original comment and then do so again by deflecting all the time and coming out with insecure delusion. Then that's fine. You're the one who has to go through with the effort and ask yourself why you do so.

[BlackRobb]

You're the one making the comment you idiot. How can asking you to support it be me putting the onus on you? Duh brain.

Now you're projecting your traits onto me with the gaslighting and the deflections. But hey, if you want to clown yourself with the original comment and then do so again by deflecting all the time and coming out with insecure delusion. Then that's fine. You're the one who has to go through with the effort and ask yourself why you do so.

I already proved with video evidence than DD did not get up at 9, you buffoon. That was my original point, yet you continue to argue around in circles like the complete imbecile you are.