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  • MMegatron
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    #31
    Originally posted by War Room

    Important to note he never walked away from additional offers though. He just said no to 25%, not the fight.
    If he wants to fight Haney, he’s worth what Haney offers. Supply and demand. All these boxers with big egos and even bigger mouths demanding what they want and what they want to be paid for it is nonsense. Live in the real world.

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    • -Kev-
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      #32
      I think Stevenson beats Haney, but he turned the fight down. I don’t like Haney, but no excuses or silly accusations should come from Shakur. He was offered 25% and he said no. Doesn’t matter if no other offers were made. He turned it down, plain and simple. Guy with 4 belts responds to you and said let’s fight for this much, you said no, I want more. That’s it then. It’s not about fighting him or gaining all those belts then.

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      • War Room
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        #33
        Originally posted by MMegatron

        If he wants to fight Haney, he’s worth what Haney offers. Supply and demand. All these boxers with big egos and even bigger mouths demanding what they want and what they want to be paid for it is nonsense. Live in the real world.
        Reiterating, he's waiting for another offer. Nothing wrong with saying the first one is too low, let's talk turkey now is there?

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        • War Room
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          #34
          Originally posted by buddyr

          So technically, he actually said "no" to the fight. right or wrong?
          Wrong, he said no to the offer and would like another. There is a difference. Shakur clearly wants the fight and Haney is already doing things to wriggle out of it.

          Haney just lost to Loma 8-4. If he loses to Shakur, his career is toast. He can't hand at 140 at all. Regis probably beats him, Russell most definitely beats him, and guys like Teo + Barboza might give him the business too. He'll never be able to handle 147.

          Plus, there is some serious talent coming up. Abdullah Mason comes to mind and will be around 20-0 in the next 2 years max. Haney does NOT want any part of that.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Bronx2245
            Bob literally said that Spence vs. Crawford would NOT sell enough to give the fighters what they want! The issue is part of the lawsuit, that Arum sabotaged Spence vs. Crawford! Yet, the fight did happen! Was it on ESPN? Will the rematch be on ESPN? Spence, Charlo, Canelo, all the BIG fights Bud desire, are they going to be on ESPN? You need to STOP! Watch Shakur follow his mentor, and get that bag!
            I don't believe it was Bob blocking Crawford-Spence. That was Al who never wanted to risk one of his few remaining cash cows after Wilder got crushed twice. Bob blocked the Pacquiao fight. The only reason Errol finally bent in negotiations is because he was finally cornered. He had to either fight Bud to unify, fight Boots or vacate and move up. He and Al chose the most lucrative cash out option. It's not rocket science.

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            • Bronx2245
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              #36
              Originally posted by BlackRobb

              I don't believe it was Bob blocking Crawford-Spence. That was Al who never wanted to risk one of his few remaining cash cows after Wilder got crushed twice. Bob blocked the Pacquiao fight. The only reason Errol finally bent in negotiations is because he was finally cornered. He had to either fight Bud to unify, fight Boots or vacate and move up. He and Al chose the most lucrative cash out option. It's not rocket science.
              Listen to what your boy Crawford said! He admitted Errol made this happen! If Haymon was that kind of guy, would he let Andy Ruiz fight Joshua? Would he let Fulton fight Inoue? Bob literally said that Spence vs. Crawford would flop, that they wanted too much money, that anyone would be a fool to promote the fight, because they will lose money, etc.! PBC does the fight, and it's a BIG success! Give credit where credit is due!

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              • rickJen
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                #37
                Devin Haney wanted to be with his other dad Eddie Hearn.
                Just wondering why he's never getting any offers from PBC/Haymon.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245
                  Listen to what your boy Crawford said! He admitted Errol made this happen! If Haymon was that kind of guy, would he let Andy Ruiz fight Joshua? Would he let Fulton fight Inoue? Bob literally said that Spence vs. Crawford would flop, that they wanted too much money, that anyone would be a fool to promote the fight, because they will lose money, etc.! PBC does the fight, and it's a BIG success! Give credit where credit is due!
                  Andy Ruiz is/was a nobody. If Bob was blocking the fight, why was he on the phone trying to call Al? Fulton is not a major star. Why would Al stand in the way of the Inoue fight? You talk like most of these PBC fighters are major stars. In the 1980s, a lot of these guys would have been fighting on NBC Sportsworld.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by BlackRobb

                    Bob blocked the Pacquiao fight, not the Spence fight. The Spence fight didn't happen because Al didn't want it to. Bud left TR in November 2021. Al and Errol didn't stop goose-stepping until April 2023. That's 16 months Bob wasn't in the picture. Find another convenient lie.
                    Errol Spence is only reason the fight happened. Had he not caved to Crawford's demands, both Bud and Haymon were just fine with walking away if contractual demands weren't met.

                    It would have been Bowe-Lewis all over again if not for Errol.

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                    • buddyr
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by War Room

                      Wrong, he said no to the offer and would like another. There is a difference. Shakur clearly wants the fight and Haney is already doing things to wriggle out of it.

                      Haney just lost to Loma 8-4. If he loses to Shakur, his career is toast. He can't hand at 140 at all. Regis probably beats him, Russell most definitely beats him, and guys like Teo + Barboza might give him the business too. He'll never be able to handle 147.

                      Plus, there is some serious talent coming up. Abdullah Mason comes to mind and will be around 20-0 in the next 2 years max. Haney does NOT want any part of that.
                      so Haney took the 25% offer, traveled to another country and had to do it for 2 fights, but Shakur(who has no leverage as a contender and has beat no one) thinks he deserves more. Does this make sense to you? Just remove the names "haney and Stevenson". Would this make sense for 2 guys that can't sell **** to flies and one of them trying to convince the world he deserves more than a 25% split just because he's better at typing on twitter?

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