Comments Thread For: Usyk Promoter: The Belly Button is The Line, Anything Low of That is a Low Blow

[boxingitis]

Why couldn't Dubois just hit Usky with a clear body shot that wouldn't be controversial. Had all fight to do that.

[ChamberOfTruth]

I’m loving seeing all the Typsy King’s man fans and people who let skin color determine who they pull for p*ssing and moaning about a call that could have gone either way going to the A side. Y’all are too funny.

[War Room]

LMAO, you need to review where the belly button is located. It's basically right at the top of Usyk's trunks level. Within an inch for sure, even with occasional movement, and Dubois' entire glove was under the top trunks line.

LMAO, you need to review where the belly button is located when the punch landed. Check and mate. Watch the gif below please.

Exposed navel when standing upright...

Are you sure about that?

when he bends over to avoid being hit, it just dips barely out of sight.

100% not true! It wasn't even showing as seen here in my gif.

The ref knew this, and Dubois's knuckles mad contact initially at the bottom of the waistband of the trunks, and rode up still below the navel. Great call by the ref.

Terrible call by the ref, he wasn't even looking at the shot lol...he was looking up. You got to be looking to see, clearly. If you're not looking at the shot, you can't see it. Compare the time stamp.



There is a point of touching fabric, then the punch touching the cup which are slightly different. Touching the fabric doesn't yank your cup up, the impact of the glove to the cup is where that happens. The the ruffles in the trunks where the red arrow is, that's right on home plate.

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You said so yourself...it's where the knuckles land that counts. And you know where his navel is...when it's not exposed, it's barely under the top of the protector. The bottom of the glove hits the side of the cup. Why in the world are you even defending this? It's so obvious...you know better.[/QUOTE]

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[boxing IQ]

That's the textbook definition of a low blow.

Dubois is trash. Didn't even deserve this title shot but jumped the line, now whines and moans when he can't capitalize on the only chance he had to win, Orlando Salido-style. Enjoy obscurity, Dubois.

[Spray_resistant]

You said so yourself...it's where the knuckles land that counts. And you know where his navel is...when it's not exposed, it's barely under the top of the protector. The bottom of the glove hits the side of the cup. Why in the world are you even defending this? It's so obvious...you know better.

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Very strange to provide very clear concise evidence that the shot was indeed low then argue to the contrary. This isn't even controversial and matters less because Dubois is a soft chinned even softer hearted quitter who blew the biggest opportunity he'll likely ever get.

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Very strange to provide very clear concise evidence that the shot was indeed low then argue to the contrary. This isn't even controversial and matters less because Dubois is a soft chinned even softer hearted quitter who blew the biggest opportunity he'll likely ever get.

Honestly...that was my first thought. He's going to argue this forever now...that's how he's wired.

[War Room]

You said so yourself...it's where the knuckles land that counts. And you know where his navel is...when it's not exposed, it's barely under the top of the protector. The bottom of the glove hits the side of the cup. Why in the world are you even defending this? It's so obvious...you know better.

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The arrow is right on home plate and the ruffles are right where his belly button should be and that's where the impact of the glove was. You're mincing microns at this point.



When you look at the video, he follows through with the punch and it's right on the button.

Lastly, this is the deepest part of the punch, you're going to tell me with a straight face this is below the belly button?



How come you won't touch that the ref wasn't even looking at the shot and looking at Usyk's eyes? You got to stand behind what you post, it's only fair.

Or how about where you say his belly button is visble, but it's totally not and under the band. Why no comment there?

In your topic here (https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...the-navel-pics) that picture is a total misrepresentation of where it was at the time.

Like I said before, I had a big amount of money on Usyk so I should be the one saying it was a low blow because who wants to lose money right? It's just not reasonable to say it was a low blow and there are a lot of moving parts. The ref isn't looking, same ref from AJ 2 who rules another body shot low that was questionable, the ref forced Usyk to take more time.

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The arrow is right on home plate and the ruffles are right where his belly button should be and that's where the impact of the glove was. You're mincing microns at this point.



When you look at the video, he follows through with the punch and it's right on the button.

Lastly, this is the deepest part of the punch, you're going to tell me with a straight face this is below the belly button?



How come you won't touch that the ref wasn't even looking at the shot and looking at Usyk's eyes? You got to stand behind what you post, it's only fair.

Or how about where you say his belly button is visble, but it's totally not and under the band. Why no comment there?

In your topic here (https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...the-navel-pics) that picture is a total misrepresentation of where it was at the time.

Like I said before, I had a big amount of money on Usyk so I should be the one saying it was a low blow because who wants to lose money right? It's just not reasonable to say it was a low blow and there are a lot of moving parts. The ref isn't looking, same ref from AJ 2 who rules another body shot low that was questionable, the ref forced Usyk to take more time.[/QUOTE]

The ref has a pretty clear view of Usyk over Dubois shoulder. The ref should have put a stop to the low blows before that shot...they were numerous. As far as I see it, there is no debate in the matter, and you know damn well the lower part of the glove made contact with the outside edge of the top of the cup and drove the steel into the gland. Do you really think Usyk faked that reaction? And you saw the pics of his visible navel, so you know that when it's not visible where abouts in the waistband of the trunks it is...you're reaching, and I'm not going to play games with you, so I'll let you have the last word, but I won't bother reading it.

[War Room]

The arrow is right on home plate and the ruffles are right where his belly button should be and that's where the impact of the glove was. You're mincing microns at this point.



When you look at the video, he follows through with the punch and it's right on the button.

Lastly, this is the deepest part of the punch, you're going to tell me with a straight face this is below the belly button?



How come you won't touch that the ref wasn't even looking at the shot and looking at Usyk's eyes? You got to stand behind what you post, it's only fair.

Or how about where you say his belly button is visble, but it's totally not and under the band. Why no comment there?

In your topic here (https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...the-navel-pics) that picture is a total misrepresentation of where it was at the time.

Like I said before, I had a big amount of money on Usyk so I should be the one saying it was a low blow because who wants to lose money right? It's just not reasonable to say it was a low blow and there are a lot of moving parts. The ref isn't looking, same ref from AJ 2 who rules another body shot low that was questionable, the ref forced Usyk to take more time.

The ref has a pretty clear view of Usyk over Dubois shoulder. The ref should have put a stop to the low blows before that shot...they were numerous. As far as I see it, there is no debate in the matter, and you know damn well the lower part of the glove made contact with the outside edge of the top of the cup and drove the steel into the gland. Do you really think Usyk faked that reaction? And you saw the pics of his visible navel, so you know that when it's not visible where abouts in the waistband of the trunks it is...you're reaching, and I'm not going to play games with you, so I'll let you have the last word, but I won't bother reading it.[/QUOTE]

He does have a good view, but his eyes are not looking at the punch, they're looking at Usyk's eyes clear as day. The image shows the ref was not looking at the punch, I don't see how anyone can be reasonable arguing that fact. Ignore it if you like, but that doesn't make it not true.

The lowest part of the glove impact was on the line, as this picture shows =--->



If you want to get technical, I've been hit in the cup few times in my amateur days. Anywhere from right on the button to under the seam. It's not a 100% guarantee your nuts get sinched. When you're fighting your sack tightens up too, it's not like when you're walking around and balls are swinging. The way your junk sits behind the cup is pretty good if you have the right cup. And dude, there is no steel hitting balls lol, the padding is nice and at the very bottom of the cup where the straps are, I'm not even sure there is steel there. Pretty sure if any at all is in the front part. I'm sure Usyk has the best cup money can buy.

Maybe a year or so ago I was shaking out a drop cloth and ting'd my nuts, immediately dropped to the ground in the fetal position. The last thing you want to do is extend your legs like Usyk did. Don't take my word for it, give it a try. It's an innate thing to do.

Where I put my arrow is pretty damned close to where his belly button was, you're mincing like a 3/16's of an inch here and I'm reaching? I think that was a legit body shot and Usyk has shown through his entire career he's weak to the body. The belly button was not visible like you said it was, I've proven that.