Comments Thread For: Robert Helenius: I Have Been Tested My Entire Career; I Didn't Cheat And Never Would

[willieb24]

"P-E-DRoom"

[SteveM]

i diss fury for the uncastrated boar meat argument...cant stand frank warren...
support whyte and joshua..but im certainly not a 'matchroom fanboy'
in fact i despise conor benn, he is a punchable annoying smug faced tw** who is full of himself..and eddie isnt someone id trust in any other capacity in life.

all this 'matchroom cuck' crap is in your dopey head. you think in that way because like most uk fans, you're a d*ckhead.


explain to me why that 'highly respected lab' refused an independent witness for the b sample test, in conor benn's case? that was his argument. he went in on them tampering with his sample.
just as Whyte's case was concluded an 'isolated contamination event'. Basically, if this was based on something he'd eaten, he would be found guilty. the lack of guilt attributed to 'contamination' is because it occured in the lab. However the wording was bogus enough to conceal the truth.
just as WBC came up with egg-gate to conceal the truth.
there is an in-lab problem here.

i dont give a toss about credibility of a fkin lab. it's only as good as the people working in it. we live in a world where most humans are corrupt.

also..you based your opinion, that bold part...on nothing...
stem cell research, cancer research.....what the fk does that have to do with drug testing for ukad/vada? daft tw**

Yikes !! glad you said "most" - the UK has a lot of boxing fans

[CasperUK]

Funny it's only Matchroom fighters failing these tests and nobody else....

Seems a little suspect to me.

Maybe its revenge on Eddie Hearn for all the allegations he threw at UKAD and the BBBoC.

[Inspired]

It does seem strange that all Matchroom connected fighters are testing dirty now - either you subscribe to the idea that Hearn is a scoundrel and knowingly turns a blind eye or maybe there's something to Inspired's post above

obv it's all conjecture on my part. i cant know for sure.

i think the amir khan fail was done just to make them look good in the public eye after the conor benn fall out. he was low risk.
i think the same has happened with helenius and even moreso now that the 'is matchroom being attacked?' idea is out there. helenius is low risk, he isnt going to persue a legal case and neither would amir khan when they're already done with the sport.


back when dillian whyte failed in 2019, who specifically leaked the news to Tom Hauser? tom hauser used to write articles attacking al haymon, then al haymon got him on side (which likely means this guy was etching for a pay off). I watched one of the ldbc channels do a phone interview with tom hauser right after hauser leaked the story, but in the interview, he instead began praising the life out of al haymon. it was a bizarre interview that was quickly deleted off youtube. The online article which linked an audio of that interview is still up, but the audio was also deleted.
in the interview, he also said that someone had called him to tip him off about the whyte situation.

i doubt it's someone working for ukad in whyte's case, then someone working for vada in benn's case, purposely leaking news to random journos in that way, given that it's the same pattern. it's likely to come from the same source ie the lab itself.

king's college is one of the russel group unis in the uk, it is obv widely respected. That doesnt mean people are infallible. the Paul Edwards case is probably the only other case in public knowledge linking corruption/dodgy practices wih the lab.
the other story i read linked to the 2012 olympics was more about the russian's. basically they got russians work for UPS, to courier the samples to the lab. However that was Wada, not ukad/vada and in that case the samples were stored in random bottles sitting in the open for anyone to tamper with. end of the day those samples in random bottles were going to the same laboratory, which makes me question a lot of things.

the lab, 'refused to comment'. in the paul edwards case they just concealed everything he asked for. they'd cite some reason. Conor Benn's argument on twitter was that he asked for an independent witness for the B sample testing...and they denied the request.

im not sure if im allowed to link to other forums, but there's a whole thread on the paul edwards vs kings college lab topic here
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_r...426332&page=85

[SteveM]

obv it's all conjecture on my part. i cant know for sure.

i think the amir khan fail was done just to make them look good in the public eye after the conor benn fall out. he was low risk.
i think the same has happened with helenius and even moreso now that the 'is matchroom being attacked?' idea is out there. helenius is low risk, he isnt going to persue a legal case and neither would amir khan when they're already done with the sport.


back when dillian whyte failed in 2019, who specifically leaked the news to Tom Hauser? tom hauser used to write articles attacking al haymon, then al haymon got him on side (which likely means this guy was etching for a pay off). I watched one of the ldbc channels do a phone interview with tom hauser right after hauser leaked the story, but in the interview, he instead began praising the life out of al haymon. it was a bizarre interview that was quickly deleted off youtube. The online article which linked an audio of that interview is still up, but the audio was also deleted.
in the interview, he also said that someone had called him to tip him off about the whyte situation.

i doubt it's someone working for ukad in whyte's case, then someone working for vada in benn's case, purposely leaking news to random journos in that way, given that it's the same pattern. it's likely to come from the same source ie the lab itself.

king's college is one of the russel group unis in the uk, it is obv widely respected. That doesnt mean people are infallible. the Paul Edwards case is probably the only other case in public knowledge linking corruption/dodgy practices wih the lab.
the other story i read linked to the 2012 olympics was more about the russian's. basically they got russians work for UPS, to courier the samples to the lab. However that was Wada, not ukad/vada and in that case the samples were stored in random bottles sitting in the open for anyone to tamper with. end of the day those samples in random bottles were going to the same laboratory, which makes me question a lot of things.

the lab, 'refused to comment'. in the paul edwards case they just concealed everything he asked for. they'd cite some reason. Conor Benn's argument on twitter was that he asked for an independent witness for the B sample testing...and they denied the request.

im not sure if im allowed to link to other forums, but there's a whole thread on the paul edwards vs kings college lab topic here
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_r...426332&page=85

thanks - you have obviously been following this closely. Totally agree that reputations can mean nothing. Lucy Letby's school friends can't believe she did this. Look at Huw Edwards - BBC main news reader. Frank Bough. Not that they were corrupted but... just as individuals can seem above any wrongdoing so its true of organisations.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

i diss fury for the uncastrated boar meat argument...cant stand frank warren...
support whyte and joshua..but im certainly not a 'matchroom fanboy'
in fact i despise conor benn, he is a punchable annoying smug faced tw** who is full of himself..and eddie isnt someone id trust in any other capacity in life.

all this 'matchroom cuck' crap is in your dopey head. you think in that way because like most uk fans, you're a d*ckhead.


explain to me why that 'highly respected lab' refused an independent witness for the b sample test, in conor benn's case? that was his argument. he went in on them tampering with his sample.
just as Whyte's case was concluded an 'isolated contamination event'. Basically, if this was based on something he'd eaten, he would be found guilty. the lack of guilt attributed to 'contamination' is because it occured in the lab. However the wording was bogus enough to conceal the truth.
just as WBC came up with egg-gate to conceal the truth.
there is an in-lab problem here.

i dont give a toss about credibility of a fkin lab. it's only as good as the people working in it. we live in a world where most humans are corrupt.

also..you based your opinion, that bold part...on nothing...
stem cell research, cancer research.....what the fk does that have to do with drug testing for ukad/vada? daft tw**

Such a little Matchroom cuck, it’s so embarrassing.

Let me guess, Whyte and Benn are innocent?

You don’t care about the credibility of a lab yet are literally questioning the credibility of the lab. GTFOH you single digit IQ m***.

[ELPacman]

The problem with these testing agencies, is they probably need to test a week before the fight or two weeks so they can identify prior to the fight taking place. Problem there is the money involved. To pull the fighter out at last minute and the potentials of cancelations (tickets, PPVs) would be a nightmare. Instead, they rather bust the fighter after the fact and then issue the weak suspensions.

[Inspired]

Such a little Matchroom cuck, it’s so embarrassing.

Let me guess, Whyte and Benn are innocent?

You don’t care about the credibility of a lab yet are literally questioning the credibility of the lab. GTFOH you single digit IQ m***.

your only purpose on this forum is to type "matchroom cuck" and try and derrail a convo with insults.

ive presented valid arguments. When i said i dont care about their 'credibility' i'm challenging the narrative it's even a credible lab. Your argument that 'they cure cancer' is abysmal. that has nothing to do with the drug testing lab.

literally 11 years ago, standard bottles of water/juice were used to collect urine samples by Wada and sent to that lab by UPS. it was revealed that ups had employed russian nationals who were transporting to that lab. there are at least 4 different stories linking this lab to dubious practices.

your only argument was this
"they curededed cancer doeee, they so credible doee"
you're a tyson fury bum licker, a steroid cheat, that's the truth. you're in your feelings because ive said it.


it isnt about being sold to matchroom, it is about a narrative within boxing where one promoter and his stable is up against the rest.
bob arum, frank warren, al haymon, oscar, lou dibella, these type of people hate him.
understanding that context and how it relates to recent events in boxing, just means i think **** through instead of "derp mitchroom cuzkcz" you silly peice of sh**

ironic you're calling me single digit, i bet you have dog sh** qualifications compared to me.

[Inspired]

pretty ironic when RJJ himself was a steroid cheat.

[SUBZER0ED]

Clomid may be non-steroidal as Helenius said, but it's banned because it raises testosterone levels in men. So many failed tests lately! If there was some foul play on the part of the testing organizations, you would think that some of these fighters would file law suits for being denied opportunities to earn income, and defamation of character. So far, I haven't heard of any such suits actually being filed.