Should Bud take a fight at 168 vs Ryder or Plant?

[joesaiditstrue]

I can't see Canelo risking everything to fight Bud unless Bud proves he can hang at 168. He's already said he's worried that people will criticize him win or lose due to the size difference

Do you think Bud should take a fight at 168 first, to prove he can hang at the weight?

If he beats either of those guys (Ryder, Plant) would Canelo make the fight? We all know the money is there.

[Spray_resistant]

It would be ****** to risk getting beat for peanuts by someone else at 168 when he could get beat by Canelo and make bank.

[IceTrayDaGang]

if the money is right, canelo will fight crawford.. canelo is just saying that crawford is too small so even if he beat crawford he will not get the credit for it as an excuse, but if the money is right, he'll fight crawford... i mean he fought khan of all people.

[joesaiditstrue]

It would be ****** to risk getting beat for peanuts by someone else at 168 when he could get beat by Canelo and make bank.

if canelo sets up a road block like making him win at least 1 fight at 168, then Bud would have no choice

are you saying Canelo wouldn't do that?

[Spray_resistant]

if canelo sets up a road block like making him win at least 1 fight at 168, then Bud would have no choice

are you saying Canelo wouldn't do that?

These are independent business negotiations he can't make Bud do or not do anything. If I were Bud I'd just tell him to kick rocks and make it public that he's trying to duck poor little me by creating problems that don't exist.

[Charlie Zelenoff]

Bud shouldn't go up to 168 regardless. Everytime you go up in weight you'll lose something. Crawford will be sluggish and drained. He should settle for conquering the 154 division.

[just the facts]

It would be ****** to risk getting beat for peanuts by someone else at 168 when he could get beat by Canelo and make bank.

Good post, spot on, nuff said and END THREAD!

[champion4ever]

The answer is no. He has nothing to prove against them. Moreover, he has nothing prove against Canelo Alvarez. Bud Crawford is already undefeated and the best P4P fighter in the world.

[joesaiditstrue]

These are independent business negotiations he can't make Bud do or not do anything. If I were Bud I'd just tell him to kick rocks and make it public that he's trying to duck poor little me by creating problems that don't exist.

I don't think you're understanding me

if Bud wants the fight bad enough and Canelo tells him, before negotiations begin, that he needs to prove himself at the weight to get a Canelo fight, you're saying Bud walks away?

[Tails]

Crawford should not take this fight to begin with. But with amount of money he would stand to make it is understandable why he would.

Him being a little taller and more reach makes it only a disadvantage of weight and mass.

Against someone like Plant or most other 168lbers he is giving up not only weight, but height and reach as well. No matter how skilled you are that is difficult to overcome when other "ranked and really good" fighters have all three of those advantages over you.

Taking what on paper is a likely L to Canelo is easier for the media and majority of fans to accept with grace. Taking a loss to someone else in the division would hurt his reputation (even though it shouldn't).

Using Ryder as an example he was outclassed by Canelo but he has put competitive (and arguably won) fights against solid competition at 168 so he in guaranteed walk in the park for someone coming up that much in weight.