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  • KayDub
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    #71
    Originally posted by RGJTMMRDCMJRJSM

    But how did Spence gave Floyd a black eye?
    That's why you don't put a lot of weight into what happens sparring

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      #72
      Originally posted by RGJTMMRDCMJRJSM
      Why couldn't he dispatch Pac the same way Crawford fought Spence?

      Was that version of Pacquiao more dangerous than Spence, hence Floyd had to fight that way?

      Or is it just a difference in philosophy? (Floyd chasing money/prioritizing health while Bud chasing glory?)
      Just go back and watch the Sugar Shane fight round 2 only, then you'll get your answer.

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        #73
        Originally posted by djtmal

        If you call holding and running, massively outboxing, the fanboys section is in the ladies room.

        It only took him like 7 years to make a fight with him.
        Every time they mention Manny he would start stumbling, stammering and changing the subject.
        And yet, he won & only Pac fanboys/Floyd haters contest the result.

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          #74
          Originally posted by The D3vil

          And yet, he won & only Pac fanboys/Floyd haters contest the result.
          More like Floyd fanboys overexaggerating then settling.

          See thats the rub. It goes from Floyd "schooling him easy" to well, as you put it, he won.

          That don't sound like no all time great win over a prime fighter to me.


          Why couldn't he dispatch Pac the same way Crawford fought Spence?


          Legit question to me Floyd wants to do just enough to win mainly running, pitty patting, and potshotting, then letting the judges give him a decision. Don't want to risk getting hit to get a guy outta there, whereas Crawford is the exact opposite. How long has it been since a Crawford fight went to a decision.

          Last edited by djtmal; 08-29-2023, 08:16 AM.

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            #75
            Originally posted by djtmal

            More like Floyd fanboys overexaggerating then settling.

            See thats the rub. It goes from Floyd "schooling him easy" to well, as you put it, he won.

            That don't sound like no all time great win over a prime fighter to me.


            Why couldn't he dispatch Pac the same way Crawford fought Spence?


            Legit question to me Floyd wants to do just enough to win mainly running, pitty patting, and potshotting, then letting the judges give him a decision. Don't want to risk getting hit to get a guy outta there, whereas Crawford is the exact opposite. How long has it been since a Crawford fight went to a decision.
            It's a dumb comparison.

            It'd be like saying why didn't Muhammad Ali bludgeon people the way Sonny Liston or Mike Tyson did.

            They different types of fighters.

            Floyd after 135 or so wasn't a fighter who was going to finish guys like that, so he outboxed them.

            Crawford's more of a puncher who's power has carried up to 147.

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            • Roadblock
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              #76
              Why didnt TC destroy all his opponents like Spence, how did some B grade fighters go ok even dropping him.

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                #77
                Originally posted by The D3vil

                It's a dumb comparison.

                It'd be like saying why didn't Muhammad Ali bludgeon people the way Sonny Liston or Mike Tyson did.

                They different types of fighters.

                Floyd after 135 or so wasn't a fighter who was going to finish guys like that, so he outboxed them.

                Crawford's more of a puncher who's power has carried up to 147.
                Say what Ali got his fair share of guys outta there including a prime Foreman and he wasn't even dominating Foreman before the ko.

                Keep Ali out of this discussion pls. Mayweather claimed he could have got this guy or that guy outta there after a boring points win, but imo the difference between him and Crawford has to do with the mindset.

                Floyd it's the same old story million and one excuses why things don't happen.

                Crawford they try to say he can't do this, can't do that, and he proves cats wrong every time.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by djtmal

                  Say what Ali got his fair share of guys outta there including a prime Foreman and he wasn't even dominating Foreman before the ko.

                  Keep Ali out of this discussion pls. Mayweather claimed he could have got this guy or that guy outta there after a boring points win, but imo the difference between him and Crawford has to do with the mindset.

                  Floyd it's the same old story million and one excuses why things don't happen.

                  Crawford they try to say he can't do this, can't do that, and he proves cats wrong every time.
                  Floyd's power didn't carry up to 147

                  Crawford's power has gotten better at 147

                  Floyd had brittle hands & needed to wear special gloves, so he wasn't knocking dudes out at 147 like he was at 130 & 135

                  Crawford's walking around weight well over 160lbs.

                  Floyd was a smallish 147lber

                  They're totally different fighters with different styles & carried 147 different ways.

                  Like I said, it's a bad comparison

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                    #79
                    Pacquiao was a level above any Welter Weight that is active today 'Both Mayweather Junior & Pacquiao are a level above Crawford & Spence Junior'.

                    I still think Crawford & Spence Junior are pretty much the same level of fighter they are not miles apart 'It was just that Spence Junior was too weight drained at 147 by the time the fight with Crawford was made. The timing of the fight for Crawford, was better for him. Both fighters were weight drained, but Crawford made the weight limit more efficiently.

                    But? People must also understand that Mayweather, was way past his peak when he fought Pacquiao.

                    Pacquiao really should of performed better vs Mayweather, as I think Mayweather was there for the taking 'If Pacquiao would of just thrown caution to the wind, Mayweather Junior definitively should of been pushed more'.

                    Mayweather won that fight while not getting out of 2nd gear 'Mayweather's skill level, and experience won him the fight.

                    Great fighters can win fights, that they are not supposed to win. Mayweather Junior's performance vs Pacquiao was that level of performance 'With the timing of the fight, Pacquiao should of pushed Mayweather Junior more than he did in my opinion' etc.


                    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-31-2023, 08:34 PM.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Roadblock
                      Why didnt TC destroy all his opponents like Spence, how did some B grade fighters go ok even dropping him.
                      Yep Spence will probably be Terence career best performance

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