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  • TrickOrSkeet34
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    #31
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

    PBC doesn’t want their hand forced but so what? It’s shouldn’t be the WBC’s job to cater to PBC.

    Just like it shouldn’t be the WBO’s job to cater to Bob Arum.
    Well yeah, agreed on all counts. You said they should call a purse bid—was just laying out why it was never gonna happen cuz it’d upset the parties involved

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    • Toffee
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      #32
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
      The WBC shouldn’t abandon the final eliminator, they should call for purse bids and force the fighters to either get it on or lose their spot in the rankings.

      That’s what a legitimate sanctioning body would do.
      If they were a legitimate organisation then they would have called purse bids a long time ago. But they didn't, and I'm also assuming neither fighter really wanted the fight - given neither actually pushed for the WBC to call purse bids.

      My conclusion remains the same as it had been. It was never a real order, there were never any real negotiations.

      Fury gets his joke fight with no mandatory obligations getting in the way.

      Wilder and Ruiz will fight for a vacant title at some point.

      And everyone is happy. There weren't many ways to reach this point without everyone being complicit.

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        #33
        Whats the point in being ranked in the top 15 with the wbc. Not only do they not have any control over their champion but also their top 2 contenders

        They may as well drop out of the rankings and dont pay any fees. If they are lucky they could get some kind of shot about 3 years from now, if the belt becomes vacant

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        • juggernaut666
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          #34
          Originally posted by bullydean

          I never said it was going to happen but considering how ****** the WBC is I wouldn't be surprised.
          Fury will likely fight the winner of Usyk vs DDD and then either face the winner of Zhang/Joyce and then AJ or simply retire with a big British showdown against AJ.
          Idk man Fury will likely duck Usyk and retire after he claims he defeated the best fighter Ngannou..but we’ll see bc his rep is already damaged from Usyk ?

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            #35
            Originally posted by juggernaut666
            Idk man Fury will likely duck Usyk and retire after he claims he defeated the best fighter Ngannou..but we’ll see bc his rep is already damaged from Usyk ?
            His rep is where it's been since he fought Wilder three times. There was no duck against Usyk considering Bob, Frank, and Klimas have all stated they're waiting for the Saudis. If you want to go back and look at negotiations then it was all on Usyk and Klimas.

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            • KillaCamNZ
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              #36
              The WBC is slipping into "nearly as bad as the WBA" territory.

              Sulaiman is going to be collecting welfare within 5 years.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Zelda
                I called this a long time ago. I am wondering why people are surprised by this? or why they couldn't see this coming. In Uzbekistan, the WBC will make Wilder vs Joshua as the final eliminator if that fight can be made.

                All these sanctioning bodies are simply businesses trying to make the most money out of boxing and each body will try to get the biggest names.
                I anticipated this and the confirmation is here.
                TYSON FURY could be stripped of the WBC heavyweight title if he doesn’t face the winner of Anthony Joshua’s showdown with Deontay Wilder, it’s been claimed. AJ has agreed terms to…


                The interesting thing, however, would be if they can agree to a split and other agreements given that the current agreement is, to the best of my knowledge, done independently by each boxer with Skills Challenge. So, if SK cannot put up the money for this, they would have to negotiate an agreement based on splits, broadcasting rights, venue, etc. By rule, Wilder is #1 and should get the larger share but that may not go well with AJ.

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                • juggernaut666
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Boxing 112

                  No it won't. Wilder and Ruiz couldn't agree you really think AJ and Wilder will agree a final eliminator or that wbc can order purse bids or splits. Would never happrn
                  Neither Ruiz or Wilder wanted that fight it was all posturing. This one is the one Wilder wants but not next and if he does he’s getting sparked with no tune up . The terms are already agreed to anyway so it’s not a Ruiz situation .

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by bullydean

                    His rep is where it's been since he fought Wilder three times. There was no duck against Usyk considering Bob, Frank, and Klimas have all stated they're waiting for the Saudis. If you want to go back and look at negotiations then it was all on Usyk and Klimas.
                    Yea sure sure , the 30% wasn’t a duck AFTER walking away from more money on the Saudi deal Fury himself cancelled and Warren stating he wants more money then the fight was worth in Saudi ? how the hell you going to spin that ,that’s Warren statements before he had to twist things ?

                    Fury literally threw a tantrum when Usyk accepted the 30% telling him he needs to fire everyone around him for accepting such a low ball offer HE said that I didn’t ,that’s not an attempted duck ,are you sure ? Lol

                    He was literally upset and had to do fake laughs on social media and had to then move more goal posts to make an unacceptable offer…yea good luck keeping on defending the impossible,I know what his rep is and so do you .
                    Last edited by juggernaut666; 09-11-2023, 11:18 AM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by juggernaut666

                      Neither Ruiz or Wilder wanted that fight it was all posturing. This one is the one Wilder wants but not next and if he does he’s getting sparked with no tune up . The terms are already agreed to anyway so it’s not a Ruiz situation .
                      What terms agreed

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