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  • The Big Dunn
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    #51
    Originally posted by boxingitis

    They knew Spence couldn't beat Crawford so they never made the fight unless PBC was the main Promoter.

    They know Shakur can beat Tank and won't make the fight unless they are the main promoter.

    They are willing to let their normal guys (not stars) get wooped by Top Rank fighters, but not the stars. They wait till the leave their promoter to get all percentage as a promoter. They are not interested in making big fights now, but wait till they get everything.
    That is hindsight.

    I think they dont want Bob involved. Same as Bon did at LW with Haney, making him sign before giving him a title shot. You surely dont think that is why Arum did that.

    Yes, they wait until they control the marketing and promotion, same as I showed above. I dont understand why youre only criticizing PBC for this.

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    • Muchen
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      #52
      They all the Mexicans will tune in hoping to see Tank lose. They also know he won’t. Smart move.

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      • Southpawology
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        #53
        Garbage fight

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        • Boricua181
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          #54
          Cruz has defeated 3 fighters with good records since his loss against Tank, so I do think that Cruz has earned the rematch against Tank.

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          • Jsmooth9876
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            #55
            Originally posted by boxingitis
            Tank and Canelo have several things in common. They are strong, short, bulky and they don't fights the best opposition in their weight class.
            At least Canelo has through his career, fighting Floyd, Lara, GGG etc...

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            • boxingitis
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              #56
              Originally posted by Jsmooth9876

              At least Canelo has through his career, fighting Floyd, Lara, GGG etc...
              That's correct. I just like messing with people here. Canelos is levels above Tank. He actually has a hall of fame career.

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              • boxingitis
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                #57
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                That is hindsight.

                I think they dont want Bob involved. Same as Bon did at LW with Haney, making him sign before giving him a title shot. You surely dont think that is why Arum did that.

                Yes, they wait until they control the marketing and promotion, same as I showed above. I dont understand why youre only criticizing PBC for this.
                Because you only critize Top rank and Bob Arum.
                Lets just agree that Top Rank has better boxer and that PBC has being doing bigger events.
                Last edited by boxingitis; 08-18-2023, 07:02 PM.

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                • Jsmooth9876
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                  Leave because TR is limiting your income and not always working in your best interests.

                  For example- wouldn’t make the ODH fight for Floyd. Made cotto defend title at 146. Didnt make Crawford a star, wouldnt put him in with Manny that wouldve elevated his profile. Orchestrated the BS Manny v Bradley trilogy. Wouldn’t hive Shakur Valdez right away. Not making Shakur v Loma.

                  I posted he should leave after unifying 3 belts.

                  Will he be willing to make a Teo v Shakur fight?
                  Crawford said on Rogan today that Roach said no to the fight with Manny and the people in Manny's camp, it wasn't TR themselves.
                  Crawford guarantee with TR was more than the comparable PBC guys made per fight.
                  I can't argue the ODH-Floyd point.
                  Nobody "makes" a fighter do anything. Cotto signed the contract and probably regretted it after the fact. Manny had never even fought at 147 yet until after this fight
                  How could they make Crawford a star when the whole PBC roster was ducking the guy ? They did the best they could with the roster they had available IMO

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                  • Jsmooth9876
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Boricua181
                    Cruz has defeated 3 fighters with good records since his loss against Tank, so I do think that Cruz has earned the rematch against Tank.
                    Yeah the corpse of Gamboa, A guy with no power and that last guy with even less power who he looked like trash against. What a run he went on lol

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                    • TheBoxingBull
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                      #60
                      Tank one of my favorite boxers to watch and all but if he keep fighting bums especially when he fights in a so called "loaded" division that's all he gon be known for.. fighting BUMS. I mean a light touch fresh out of a sentence and after a successful fight is one thing but anybody wit eyes could see him and Cruz fighting again next. But wit Loma , Shakur , Martin and technically Devin who got all the REAL belts just walking around ya division he bout to start looking crazy out here

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