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  • The Big Dunn
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    #31
    Originally posted by boxingitis

    So why leave Top Rank if they are managing your career for gowth? Top Rank is the best a creating stars. De La Hoya, Manny, Cotto, Crawford, Mayweather. Once Top Rank makes them into a star, now they want leave.

    Top Rank still has good fights for Shakur and they will build up more stars to face him. Muratalla or Navarette, or new up and comers. Emiliano Vargas.

    Teo if he stays and Shakur moves up.
    Leave because TR is limiting your income and not always working in your best interests.

    For example- wouldn’t make the ODH fight for Floyd. Made cotto defend title at 146. Didnt make Crawford a star, wouldnt put him in with Manny that wouldve elevated his profile. Orchestrated the BS Manny v Bradley trilogy. Wouldn’t hive Shakur Valdez right away. Not making Shakur v Loma.

    I posted he should leave after unifying 3 belts.

    Will he be willing to make a Teo v Shakur fight?

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      #32
      Originally posted by NC Uppercut
      Dunn, hope all is well brother. Can you explain what you mean when you say “ TR is copying PBC”?
      Not knocking you, just trying to make it make sense.
      The music and the entrances.They also have been doing more all access type shows to help raise the younger fighters profile.

      I think these are good things in terms of engaging with casual fans and younger fans.

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        #33
        The first fight was competitive with Tank winning most rds but he had a bad hand, though wasn't Cruz a short notice opponent?
        This isn't the worst fight that could be made.

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        • boxingitis
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          #34
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn

          Leave because TR is limiting your income and not always working in your best interests.

          For example- wouldn’t make the ODH fight for Floyd. Made cotto defend title at 146. Didnt make Crawford a star, wouldnt put him in with Manny that wouldve elevated his profile. Orchestrated the BS Manny v Bradley trilogy. Wouldn’t hive Shakur Valdez right away. Not making Shakur v Loma.

          I posted he should leave after unifying 3 belts.

          Will he be willing to make a Teo v Shakur fight?
          So Wilder should leave beacuase PBC is not making the Ruiz fight.

          Ennis should leave because PBC is not making the Thurman, Ugas, and Spence fight.

          Morrel should leave beacuase PBC is not making the Benavidez fight.

          Martin should leave because PBC is not making the Tank fight. I can go on and on.

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            #35
            Originally posted by boxingitis

            So Wilder should leave beacuase PBC is not making the Ruiz fight.

            Ennis should leave because PBC is not making the Thurman, Ugas, and Spence fight.

            Morrel should leave beacuase PBC is not making the Benavidez fight.

            Martin should leave because PBC is not making the Tank fight. I can go on and on.
            No. Didn’t Ruiz turn that fight down? That said, PBC got Wilder a high profile fight with Fury and secured him a high paying ( but not needed) rematch. Also, instead of the Ruiz fight, a more lucrative fight with AJ is being planned. Now if youre asking should Ruiz leave PBC, maybe, but keep in kind PBC got him the AJ fight.

            Why would Ennis leave if he wants a title fight?

            Thurman is damn near retired. Ugas hasn’t fought since losing to Spence and Spence just fought Crawford.

            I see what youre doing. I didnt post or suggest every boxer leave TR. I didnt post guys like Teo, Loma, Taylor should leave. I didnt suggest Fury, his top earner, should leave.

            Shakur is different, as was Fishnets, Floyd and Crawford.

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              #36
              Roelly has winners.

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                #37
                As soon as Shakur leaves Bob the fight will be made immediately. Until then I'm just happy Tank is fighting again this year.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                  The music and the entrances.They also have been doing more all access type shows to help raise the younger fighters profile.

                  I think these are good things in terms of engaging with casual fans and younger fans.
                  Ugh! Long ring walks are the worst lol....but I'm an old guy. Just get to the fights! I didn't like it when Naseem Hamed did it, and I don't like it now. I've actually missed parts of British fights because I get busy doing something else while they're on their half hour ring walks. The music is fine, unless it's Evander Holyfield singing gospel on the way to the ring lol.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by boxingitis

                    So Wilder should leave beacuase PBC is not making the Ruiz fight.

                    Ennis should leave because PBC is not making the Thurman, Ugas, and Spence fight.

                    Morrel should leave beacuase PBC is not making the Benavidez fight.

                    Martin should leave because PBC is not making the Tank fight. I can go on and on.
                    it seemed like Gary Russell Jr's whole career was spent begging for a Santa Cruz or a Tank fight.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by wrecksracer

                      Ugh! Long ring walks are the worst lol....but I'm an old guy. Just get to the fights! I didn't like it when Naseem Hamed did it, and I don't like it now. I've actually missed parts of British fights because I get busy doing something else while they're on their half hour ring walks. The music is fine, unless it's Evander Holyfield singing gospel on the way to the ring lol.
                      I think its useful to connect with newer fans. Cross promotion can only help the sport.

                      So long as its done right. Like Em walking out Crawford or Lil Wayne with Floyd.

                      The all access type shows are good too. I dont know why espn will not do more of this.

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