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  • #41
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

    The music and the entrances.They also have been doing more all access type shows to help raise the younger fighters profile.

    I think these are good things in terms of engaging with casual fans and younger fans.
    Any kind of all access style shows are great for getting to know the fighters and their backgrounds. I noticed they have been on overtime with Keyshawn Davis’ story. I actually like that stuff. More exposure for lesser known boxers is a must!
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    • #42
      Originally posted by NC Uppercut View Post

      Any kind of all access style shows are great for getting to know the fighters and their backgrounds. I noticed they have been on overtime with Keyshawn Davis’ story. I actually like that stuff. More exposure for lesser known boxers is a must!
      Exactly. I think finally someone is listening to what Floyd and Crawford are really getting at. You gotta build people in spaces casual fans can find them.

      You also need to cross promote wisely. Music is a great way to do that.

      People forget long before Floyd and Zab fought, they were featured in that music video with each doing light sparring.

      I can’t remember which rapper that was but he was with J Prince out of Houston.
      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 08-18-2023, 01:59 PM.
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      • #43
        Let’s go Tank!!!

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        • #44
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

          Exactly. I think finally someone is listening to what Floyd and Crawford are really getting at. You gotta build people in spaces casual fans can find them.
          Man there’s gotta be a way another way of reaching audiences that the management isn’t using yet. They need to be running straight up campaigns for some of these fighters. If it reaches enough eyes and ears, people will have something to talk about and collaborate with in boxing.

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          • #45
            Tank fought with one hand for the last 7 rounds and still won.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by NC Uppercut View Post

              Man thereâs gotta be a way another way of reaching audiences that the management isnât using yet. They need to be running straight up campaigns for some of these fighters. If it reaches enough eyes and ears, people will have something to talk about and collaborate with in boxing.
              You need boxing back on the big 3 networks. Thats how guys built themselves back in the day.

              ABC, CBS and NBC. Olympic boxing. All reduced or gone. Boxing used to be 2nd to only the speed races in track.

              You knew the team members. Hell they dont even show it anymore.
              Last edited by The Big Dunn; 08-18-2023, 02:06 PM.
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              • #47
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                You need boxing back on the big 3 networks. Thats how guys built themselves back in the day.

                ABC, CBS and NBC. Olympic boxing. All reduced or gone. Boxing used to be 2nd to only the speed races in track.

                You knew the team members. Hell they dont even show it anymore.
                That’s true indeed! Hell the big 3 don’t even really advertise fights anymore either. Knowing damn well they are tied to certain groups. Makes no sense
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                • #48
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                  No. Didn’t Ruiz turn that fight down? That said, PBC got Wilder a high profile fight with Fury and secured him a high paying ( but not needed) rematch. Also, instead of the Ruiz fight, a more lucrative fight with AJ is being planned. Now if youre asking should Ruiz leave PBC, maybe, but keep in kind PBC got him the AJ fight.

                  Why would Ennis leave if he wants a title fight?

                  Thurman is damn near retired. Ugas hasn’t fought since losing to Spence and Spence just fought Crawford.

                  I see what youre doing. I didnt post or suggest every boxer leave TR. I didnt post guys like Teo, Loma, Taylor should leave. I didnt suggest Fury, his top earner, should leave.

                  Shakur is different, as was Fishnets, Floyd and Crawford.
                  Im not suggesting every PBC fighter leave. Same as Ruiz doesn't want to fight Wilder, Maybe Loma doesn't want to fight Shakur. Maybe Pacman didn't want to fight Crawford, but you have to blamd Top Rank and Bob Arum.

                  So PBC can make Wilder vs Fury, but not Crawford vs Spence, or Shakur vs Tank?

                  So Crawford vs Felix Diaz, Joh Molina, Amir Khan, Shawn Porter all advice by Haymon, but not Spence, but it's Top Rank fault.

                  PBC didn't have a problem making Fulton vs Inuoe, thinking Fulton would win.
                  Last edited by boxingitis; 08-18-2023, 02:28 PM.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by boxingitis View Post

                    Im not suggesting every PCB fighter leave. Same as Ruiz doesn't want to fight Wilder, Maybe Loma doesn't want to fight Shakur. Maybe Pacman didn't want to fight Crawford, but you have to blamd Top Rank and Bob Arum.

                    So PBC can make Wilder vs Fury, but not Crawford vs Spence, or Shakur vs Tank?

                    So Crawford vs Felix Diaz, Joh Molina, Amir Khan, Shawn Porter all advice by Haymon, but not Spence, but it's Top Rank fault.

                    PBC didn't have a problem making Fulton vs Inuoe, thinking Fulton would win.
                    Yes I did because its a recurring problem that I tried to document in that post.

                    Fury joined TR in Feb 2019. Fury v Wilder 1, with rematches in place, was Dec 2018 before this. All Arum did was participate in rematches already negotiated.

                    TR is not Inoue’s primary promoter. Of course they thought Fulton would win. Why would they thinknhed lose?

                    I explained Porter. Those are lower level fights that PBC wasnt all involved in.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                      Yes I did because its a recurring problem that I tried to document in that post.

                      Fury joined TR in Feb 2019. Fury v Wilder 1, with rematches in place, was Dec 2018 before this. All Arum did was participate in rematches already negotiated.

                      TR is not Inoue’s primary promoter. Of course they thought Fulton would win. Why would they thinknhed lose?

                      I explained Porter. Those are lower level fights that PBC wasnt all involved in.
                      They knew Spence couldn't beat Crawford so they never made the fight unless PBC was the main Promoter.

                      They know Shakur can beat Tank and won't make the fight unless they are the main promoter.

                      They are willing to let their normal guys (not stars) get wooped by Top Rank fighters, but not the stars. They wait till the leave their promoter to get all percentage as a promoter. They are not interested in making big fights now, but wait till they get everything.

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