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  • Butt stuff
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    #11
    Originally posted by landotter
    Neither man has a bigger money fight on deck, so yes it will get done. But Wilder inactivity makes me lean AJ picking him apart.
    If wilder has been training in the background then he’ll be totally fine. He’s the ultimate kryptonite fighter for AJ. Huge power, reach/height and fast hands.

    AJ will be too terrified to throw a right hand with intentions, or maybe even at all.

    Wilder let’s the 1-2 rip when he realises AJ is just giving him constant openings.

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      #12
      Originally posted by tokon
      Is this all just more bs that's gonna come to nothing? Before last weekend the talk was this fight was was basically a done deal dependent on Joshua coming through against whoever his opponent was Whyte, Helenius, whoever. Now it's "we're optimistic . . . ". GTFOH.
      Think Hearn mentioned this was due to the saudis putting a halt onto finalising the fight due to the joshua warm up, now thats out the way hopefully this gets wrapped up and signed by the end of the month.

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        #13
        Wilder smokes AJ no problem

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          #14
          Originally posted by BlackRobb
          Why so far out??? Why not November or December? Boxing is such a joke! UFC makes fights ASAP, and makes the fights the fans want.
          UFC makes fights ASAP because their fighters are basically ******. Not a good thing.

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            #15
            Originally posted by bullydean

            UFC makes fights ASAP because their fighters are basically ******. Not a good thing.
            Exactly. There’s a reason why former UFC fighters come over to boxing. They want that payday they never got in UFC.

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              #16
              Wilder smokes AJ real quick it would be funny. AJ would be too scared and too slow to pull the trigger.

              Wilders a dog in there he proved his worth in the trilogy vs Fury. He don’t fear no man. AJ would be lost he not built that way.

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                #17
                Originally posted by joe strong
                Wilder didn’t run. Wilder was the higher ranked fighter & entitled to the lions share but Ruiz wanted 50%. Why would he deserve that? His 15 minutes of fame went up in smoke in the Joshua rematch then he wanted 20 million to fight Fury. Sounds like Ruiz is the problem. Usyk was Joshua’s WBO mandatory & he thought he could paste him just like Wilder thought he would paste Fury. Joshua has had a good career & i’m not taking away from it but he needs a win over Wilder or Fury to even be considered as the #3 of this era… Currently the #4
                If Wilder and Ruiz actually wanted to fight each other, why didn't they ask the WBC to order a purse bid when they couldn't reach an agreement?
                Last edited by kafkod; 08-16-2023, 01:57 PM.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Boxing 112


                  We know Wilder teams turned down dazns offer it was nothing new. Dazns offer had no substamce and couldn't even guarantee what they were offering
                  The dazn head said himself they rushed discussing that deal and didn't know exactly wgat they were doing as had only just got into the game

                  Not going to get into he but AJ asked for 50m and turned it down when it came. He ducked furys offer this summer and last winter. And Eddie could not make fury aj in saudi, he claimed for 5 months it would be done "next week" week after week amd it mever happened till finally wilders arbitration decision said fury needs to fight wilder. So eddie got of easy when he couldn't make the fury fight anyway

                  Same **** he has fed his fan boys this year that wilder aj was done for dec. Is it done? No. But he keeps selling you something else. Saturday he claimed itll be finalised in a few days. Its been a few days

                  Has ducked wilder and fury for years. they avoided Usyk for 2 years. Usks legal team sent a letter demanding their mando shot and only then was the fight finally made. He was basically forced into finally fighting Usyk mando (or drop the belt which would be a PR disaster so not a realistic option)
                  Wilder admitted that he turned down more money to fight AJ than he got for fighting Fury. No amount of spin and bull**** will alter that.

                  Eddie Hearn did make Fury vs AJ in Saudi. The Saudis were all aboard with it and both sides accepted the terms they were offered. It was the Fury/Wilder arbitration that stopped the fight from happening.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Boxing 112


                    We know Wilder teams turned down dazns offer it was nothing new. Dazns offer had no substamce and couldn't even guarantee what they were offering
                    The dazn head said himself they rushed discussing that deal and didn't know exactly wgat they were doing as had only just got into the game

                    Not going to get into he but AJ asked for 50m and turned it down when it came. He ducked furys offer this summer and last winter. And Eddie could not make fury aj in saudi, he claimed for 5 months it would be done "next week" week after week amd it mever happened till finally wilders arbitration decision said fury needs to fight wilder. So eddie got of easy when he couldn't make the fury fight anyway

                    Same **** he has fed his fan boys this year that wilder aj was done for dec. Is it done? No. But he keeps selling you something else. Saturday he claimed itll be finalised in a few days. Its been a few days

                    Has ducked wilder and fury for years. they avoided Usyk for 2 years. Usks legal team sent a letter demanding their mando shot and only then was the fight finally made. He was basically forced into finally fighting Usyk mando (or drop the belt which would be a PR disaster so not a realistic option)
                    You just drunk the cool-aid. Wilder offered $50m (Or whatever it was) and then his team was asked for proof of funds and they couldn't/didn't provide it. It's the same thing with Fury trying to make fights over Twitter. No one serious does that. You need a contract to make a fight. People who aren't serious make a lot of noise because their fan boys fall for it - again and again..

                    If you think Wilder wanted AJ - look at how he avoided Whyte for 2-3 years. That should have been an easy fight for him. He avoided pretty much everyone in the top-10 for the last 5 years apart from an old Oritz

                    Wilder wants AJ now because he looks very beatable. Who doesn't think Wilder will beat AJ at the moment?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez

                      You just drunk the cool-aid. Wilder offered $50m (Or whatever it was) and then his team was asked for proof of funds and they couldn't/didn't provide it. It's the same thing with Fury trying to make fights over Twitter. No one serious does that. You need a contract to make a fight. People who aren't serious make a lot of noise because their fan boys fall for it - again and again..

                      If you think Wilder wanted AJ - look at how he avoided Whyte for 2-3 years. That should have been an easy fight for him. He avoided pretty much everyone in the top-10 for the last 5 years apart from an old Oritz

                      Wilder wants AJ now because he looks very beatable. Who doesn't think Wilder will beat AJ at the moment?
                      They provided proof. Eddie did an interview and said questions were asked and he got replies. Obviously none of them have all the money up front thats not how it works. The fight was for a US fight it would have generated that. The only offered Eddie made himself were 7m and thrn 12m lowball offers.


                      The dazn offer was made up they couldn't prove anything or offer any guarantees go read what the dazn head said at the time that they rushed it talks and were new to the business so didn't go about it right or know exactly what they were doing

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