Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua: I'm Just Focused On Smashing [Wilder's] Head In Now - And That's It

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  • Willow The Wisp
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    #41
    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
    Wilder is following Spence and Charlo brothers blue print. He is coming just for a cash out.

    Wilder knows he is done, that is why doesn`t even have any stay busy fights.
    Wilder is worth 48 million USD and Joshua is worth 97 million. They are two of the very best of the 21st century, and this fight is for PRIDE!

    Joshua, 33 is smack dab in the middle of his Prime!
    And the "Washed up" blather comes from fans still shook from the Ruiz KO loss and the two Patty-Cake decisions that went against him with Usyk, which they STILL struggle to explain. As if they want to beleive that "The Joshua who beat up Molina and Cornish would never lose to Usyk".
    Sure he would. The Anthony Joshua that you THOUGHT existed wouldn't have, sure; but the real one could and did stumble against both Ruiz and Usyk. Doesn't mean Joshua's no good mind you; it just means he's not the only heavyweight who is good.


    Wilder, 37 is later prime, but PRIME. Make no mistake. Casuals often don't know that the Bronze Bomber didn't start boxing until he was 20, rather later; turning pro at 23. His trilogy with Fury was decisive, but in TWO of those fights Wilder FOUR TIMES came within a referee's call of scoring a knockout where Tyson Fury survived by a wisper. These fights, although wearing, were epics, not one-sided beatings.

    I think that Both fighters are coming off one of the better wins of their careers, in fact.

    Afterall, who's Joshua ever beaten who's better than Helenius?
    Whyte, Klitschko, Povetkin and Ruiz - 4 guys.
    Martin, Breazeale, Takam, Parker and Pulev are of the same level as "The Nordic Nightmare", not better.

    And Wilder?
    Ortiz I, Ortiz II, Fury I, Fury II, Fury III - 5 guys.
    Breazeale, Washington, Stiverne, Scott, Duhaupas and Arreola are the same level.


    Both remain at the tip-top of the World Rankings of the flagship division of the MONEY combat sport.
    The two former titleholders are NOT past prime....and when you hear that, you're hearing it from a casual who's forming and posting their opinions.

    Let the Fireworks Begin.
    This fight is HARDLY too late to be historically meaningful.

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    • Willow The Wisp
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      #42
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

      If Wilder lasts 7 rounds, 9 rounds or the distance with Joshua.

      Do people think Wilder is going to be winning rounds? Do people really believe Wilder is going to be having a good ole time in there? I have news for people, he won't be having a good time in my opinion.

      Anthony Joshua is the most powerful puncher, Wilder has ever faced 'Wilder has never faced the combination of boxing skill and power in one fighter that Joshua has'.

      Tyson Fury is not a monster puncher, Fury is a great boxer 'Clumsy, but effective to a certain extent. Fury does not have the proven punching power of Joshua'.

      Wilder theoretically is going to be dropping rounds, and being systematically beaten up 'So this notion that, lasting 7,9 or the distance with Joshua is going to be great for Wilder is not a sound observation'.

      Joshua has two wins now during his comeback, he has won 90-95% of the rounds he has fought 'And he has just achieved a violent knock-out of Helenius'.

      Joshua is building momentum, and there is a possibility that he could even fight again 'Before fighting Wilder'.

      In my opinion, Wilder may have to do more than just land one punch. Because the facts are, that Anthony Joshua has never legitimately been knocked out.

      Joshua was stopped once on his feet, with a smile on his face vs Ruiz Junior 'Joshua was decked by Kiltschko, by a more powerful and technically proficient punch than anything Wilder has ever landed on Fury 'In my opinion'. Joshua got up vs Kiltschko, and he did not just survive for the rest of the fight 'Joshua knocked Wladimir Kiltschko out'.

      Joshua has fought consistently at a higher level than Fury, has fought more powerful punchers and offensively dangerous fighters 'And he has still be decked a less number of times than Fury'.

      There is definitive evidence, that Joshua has near enough comparable durability threshold to Tyson Fury 'Recovery is a different attribute, and that I believe is the attribute that may be tested by Wilder's violence'.

      But honestly all these people that believe Joshua is just going to disappear soon as he is hit by Wilder, and that is what they are gaming on 'You guys are not really analyzing the fight, or thinking about what is actually going to happen to Wilder up until that point'.

      Tyson Fury before he faced Wilder, it was common knowledge 'That Fury's power next to his clumsiness was most likely his worst attribute'. Fury decked Wilder numerous times, and also ****** him out once 'I still don't rate Fury, inside the top-8 most powerful punchers in the Heavyweight division'.

      Tyson Fury in his last fight was unable to decked or even legitimate stop a semi-retired Derek Chisora 'Fury is not a monster puncher'.

      Joshua in comparison is arguable rated in the top-3 most powerful punchers in the Heavyweight division 'Outside of Fury & Usyk Joshua is also rated again in the top-3 best pure boxers in the Heavyweight division'.

      Note: This is a dangerous fight for both fighters, both fighters have ways they can win. I rate Deontay Wilder extremely highly 'But when you actually analyse this fight, you will realize that Joshua has more ways than Wilder to win this fight' etc.
      .....Hence the tens of millions that each combatant will earn. It always was and remains a fight featuring a range of possible outcomes.
      Your post focuses on the overlooked attributes that Joshua will present that Wilder has never dealt with, precisely. I agree.

      And I'll be watching.

      But my money is on Wilder KO in 6.

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      • Marchegiano
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        #43
        Wilder gonna crack those horse teeth

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        • boogbx
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          #44
          I truly felt that Joshua before fighting Ruiz would’ve bodied Wilder. Joshua has legit power and much better skills to get inside or stay away from Wilder’s right.

          not anymore, Wilder bodies him. Wilder is tough and his skills are deceptive. He has a decent jab and landed that right on Fury many times and Fury’s a much better fighter than Joshua.

          joshua might get sparked in the first 3 rounds.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

            .....Hence the tens of millions that each combatant will earn. It always was and remains a fight featuring a range of possible outcomes.
            Your post focuses on the overlooked attributes that Joshua will present that Wilder has never dealt with, precisely. I agree.

            And I'll be watching.

            But my money is on Wilder KO in 6.
            I rate Wilder extremely highly, for what he is good at 'One of Wilder's best attributes is that he is decisive, he knows what his tactics are in every single fight. And Wilder never deviates from those tactics'.

            This makes preparing for Wilder in my opinion, not that difficult for a fighter 'In terms of developing a game plan'.

            Then it is whether a fighter can carry out that game plan, when they are on the battle field 'That is the challenge with Wilder, that is what Joshua has to overcome'.

            But so far Joshua seems to be developing his game plan, is ingraining these tactics 'And is not being swayed by the media or people suggesting that he should just wade forward'.

            I actually believe people who say such things, disrespect Wilder's abilities 'Contrary to the narrative, although skill for skill in terms of pure boxing Wilder is not elite. I still rate him more than just a fighter with power 'Wilder has a solid Jab, and a abnormal level of aggression with determination' etc.


            Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-14-2023, 02:54 PM.

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