Comments Thread For: Filip Hrgovic Stops Demsey McKean in Twelfth, But Fails To Impress

[Dr. Z]

I haven't the foggiest... But I know who does!! I would ask Doctor Z, I am sure he can explain exactly why the stiff Croat appeared to be lacking when being hugged by the kangaroo doctor.

He lost one round ( the 7th ) during a fight. Maybe two where he was held, and the ref should have taken points away from McKean. What is his excuse for losing the 7th round?!

As they say he closed the show with a great right hand in the 12th round. He bounced that southpaw kangaroo who was haging on Kolala bear to a tree half the fight out of there. That Ko was a hard punch that was delivered with speed and accuracy. Tired fighters don't end fights in this fashion.

The boo bird excuses are over. I hope he fights Usyk. There shall be no questions then. But like I said haters are going to hate.

[billeau2]

He lost one round ( the 7th ) during a fight. Maybe two where he was held, and the ref should have taken points away from McKean. What is his excuse for losing the 7th round?!

As they say he closed the show with a great right hand in the 12th round. He bounced that southpaw kangaroo who was haging on Kolala bear to a tree half the fight out of there. That Ko was a hard punch that was delivered with speed and accuracy. Tired fighters don't end fights in this fashion.

The boo bird excuses are over. I hope he fights Usyk. There shall be no questions then. But like I said haters are going to hate.

The stiff Croat does not show much... But he has persevered. It does not appear to me that he could do much if he steps up, but I have an open mind.

[Dr. Z]

The stiff Croat does not show much... But he has persevered. It does not appear to me that he could do much if he steps up, but I have an open mind.

Question what make him stiff? Have you ever seen his work out clips? He does not look stiff on the speed bag or jumping rope. Far form it. The man can bend down with his knees locked and touch his toes. His movement his, speed and quickness are good. That KO blow was a hard a fast punch.

He lost 1-2 rounds and did not persevere. Sure he did not show much : ) Uysk lost more rounds to Chrisora. His opponent held on for for much of the fight, otherwise it would have ended sooner.

He is 6'6" with an 82 " reach and 245 lbs, not a female gymnast.

[billeau2]

Question what make him stiff? Have you ever seen his work out clips? He does not look stiff on the speed bag or jumping rope. Far form it. The man can bend down with his knees locked and touch his toes. His movement his, speed and quickness are good. That KO blow was a hard a fast punch.

He lost 1-2 rounds and did not persevere. Sure he did not show much : ) Uysk lost more rounds to Chrisora. His opponent held on for for much of the fight, otherwise it would have ended sooner.

He is 6'6" with an 82 " reach and 245 lbs, not a female gymnast.

The ammy style for one thing... Very basic. No angles, work behind a jab. No head movement. No cutting the ring off... No changes in timing.

[Dr. Z]

The ammy style for one thing... Very basic. No angles, work behind a jab. No head movement. No cutting the ring off... No changes in timing.

That is a bit different than being stiff. He cuts off the ring, and has some head movement. He got a quick step back and fine guard in his defense. Based on his aggressive style of scoring he leaves room for some counters. He is not a fished prodcut yet. He only has 16 pro fights! Do you judge Lewis or Klitschko so early?

[billeau2]

That is a bit different than being stiff. He cuts off the ring, and has some head movement. He got a quick step back and fine guard in his defense. Based on his aggressive style of scoring he leaves room for some counters. He is not a fished prodcut yet. He only has 16 pro fights! Do you judge Lewis or Klitschko so early?

YES! I certainly did Judge Lewis particularly. I don't hold the stiff Croat at fault though, the guys just are not fighting...

[Dr. Z]

YES! I certainly did Judge Lewis particularly. I don't hold the stiff Croat at fault though, the guys just are not fighting...

They are not fighting because they would get hurt and lose sooner. Instead they opt a low risk strategy and only fight in spurts against Hrgovic. McKean held on so much he should have been have had at least a point take away.

What makes Hrogvic " stiff " compared to the other heavyweight his size? You did not answer this. Tell me. I say he puts punches together more fluidly, bends and goes to the body well, and features a better jab in comparison to the rest go the top ten. Now Usyk is more fluid ( okay ) but he also does not have the reach, size and power that Hrogvic does. Hrgovic has skills and hand and feet. He and moves well for a big guy. Compared to the other big guys and rest of the top ten.

Uysk is an unusually fluid heavy weight! There has been one like him in 20 years.

Again I ask you to break the above down. I think you and I will agree more than we disagree.

[billeau2]

They are not fighting because they would get hurt and lose sooner. Instead they opt a low risk strategy and only fight in spurts against Hrgovic. McKean held on so much he should have been have had at least a point take away.

What makes Hrogvic " stiff " compared to the other heavyweight his size? You did not answer this. Tell me. I say he puts punches together more fluidly, bends and goes to the body well, and features a better jab in comparison to the rest go the top ten. Now Usyk is more fluid ( okay ) but he also does not have the reach, size and power that Hrogvic does. Hrgovic has skills and hand and feet. He and moves well for a big guy. Compared to the other big guys and rest of the top ten.

Uysk is an unusually fluid heavy weight! There has been one like him in 20 years.

Again I ask you to break the above down. I think you and I will agree more than we disagree.

No no... I mean fights are not being made. We should see a tourney, or something where the prospects round robin off of each other.

I don't know about specific size, but the stiff Croat moves in a fashion which I already described to you. Compare the fluid footwork and jab of Anderson, the angles Jarred uses... and I am not sold on him either, just saying. Size should not make you less fluid. I don't believe so. Canera was not much of a fighter, but he moved very gracefully in the ring...

[Dr. Z]

billeau2

No no... I mean fights are not being made. We should see a tourney, or something where the prospects round robin off of each other.

I don't know about specific size, but the stiff Croat moves in a fashion which I already described to you. Compare the fluid footwork and jab of Anderson, the angles Jarred uses... and I am not sold on him either, just saying. Size should not make you less fluid. I don't believe so. Canera was not much of a fighter, but he moved very gracefully in the ring...

My point is 6'6" guys are seldom fluid. Can you name any? Size as height, weight, and reach matter at heavyweight as does Power. AGE matters regardless of which division you are talking about! Uysk will be 37 in January. I have asked you before what makes him stiff and pointed out his relatively fast hands and feet as well as his workouts. His is by far a better boxer in comparsion to Canera.