Why is the rematch between Zhang vs Joyce at even money?

[billeau2]

I think rematches end differently and those that don’t are under very slim circumstances..like I would pick Joshua over Usyk ina third fight just because I saw he had opportunities he let go away etc….I think rematches should actually be done with top guys because they often do not end the same and we get better fights off them history shows this .

Thats just one man’s opinion, I do believe Joshua has the best shot at Usyk since he’s fought him twice ,would others ? Not really . Usyk is that guy you got to really get a gage on ..in this instance Joshua has the best shot in that category…….I also think DDD will give him a hard time he has the blue print so I wouldn’t be shocked at all in that one if he won ,though he shouldn’t .

Given the odds, Joshua would have to be a much diminished to Usyk if he were to lose a third time... That in itself would mean the fight would be close... Unless one believes Usyk is 3 x the fighter Joshua is. I agree that different aspects come out when two excellent fighters figure out more and more about each other. The epic Black fighters fought each other many times over before the color line dissapeared and seldom did one guy sweep the other... Look at MMA, same thing, guys fight and lose and are still great fighters. More approaches, more ways to win (and lose), nobody can just sit on the top and avoid a meaningful challenge.

[juggernaut666]

Given the odds, Joshua would have to be a much diminished to Usyk if he were to lose a third time... That in itself would mean the fight would be close... Unless one believes Usyk is 3 x the fighter Joshua is. I agree that different aspects come out when two excellent fighters figure out more and more about each other. The epic Black fighters fought each other many times over before the color line dissapeared and seldom did one guy sweep the other... Look at MMA, same thing, guys fight and lose and are still great fighters. More approaches, more ways to win (and lose), nobody can just sit on the top and avoid a meaningful challenge.

Wel I can’t really add to your post I’d just say I dislike Fury greatly and even had problems with this guy off the forum but besides that I have no doubt what I’d do to him in a real fight so that being said bc I know he reads my stuff and hasn’t the balls to actually do anything to me L I’m going to redirect the post and what you said is absolutely correct.

If you are a boxing historian on here you then know he’s a terrible champion there’s no way to dispute that right now . Me vs Tommy in A boxing match wouldn’t be a fair fight I end that easily wheather I’m 20 or 50 ..it wouldn’t change that outcome …….I know you are the best here as far as boxing history but I can’t let these guys slide it ain’t going to happen …….you had the absolute worst fans in history in Wilder then Fury took over they are just equally bad ……cheerleaders are what they both are . Let’s just let the big fights get done and put blame on whoever holds the, up …bunch of sissy’s on here …lol

Tommy Fury vs me go ahead I DARE you to make that one Tyson, big goof ball in fact I’ll fight you for free and we’ll find a stipulation around that where you see every penny the beating I give YOU ? Fudging jerk .

[billeau2]

Wel I can’t really add to your post I’d just say I dislike Fury greatly and even had problems with this guy off the forum but besides that I have no doubt what I’d do to him in a real fight so that being said bc I know he reads my stuff and hasn’t the balls to actually do anything to me L I’m going to redirect the post and what you said is absolutely correct.

If you are a boxing historian on here you then know he’s a terrible champion there’s no way to dispute that right now . Me vs Tommy in A boxing match wouldn’t be a fair fight I end that easily wheather I’m 20 or 50 ..it wouldn’t change that outcome …….I know you are the best here as far as boxing history but I can’t let these guys slide it ain’t going to happen …….you had the absolute worst fans in history in Wilder then Fury took over they are just equally bad ……cheerleaders are what they both are . Let’s just let the big fights get done and put blame on whoever holds the, up …bunch of sissy’s on here …lol

Tommy Fury vs me go ahead I DARE you to make that one Tyson, big goof ball in fact I’ll fight you for free and we’ll find a stipulation around that where you see every penny the beating I give YOU ? Fudging jerk .

Lol, you and a few others called it on Fury. He really has turned out to be full of it. Yeah I mean they hold the belts hostage... Tyson does not strike me as a real killer. I know the dad likes to make it seem they were bred for combat, but at the end of the day in reality seems to me Fury was trained to box from an early age, not the same thing. And how ****** is it to take your best years and piss them away? Real fights are different. If a fighter is afraid to even challenge in the ring, I do not think they would do much when faced with a real situation.

[War Room]

Joyce never had a strong punch, How do you figure taking a shot matters? Joyce overuns with activity no? I agree that backing up Zhang might be a problem, but wouldn't this have to do with Joyce's activity level, being able to hit Zhang regularly? So essentially Joyce is fighting a 40 year old, one armed fighter, with slow footspeed... He has to avoid the left, and be more defensively responsible. I can see the Bookies perspective, however picking Zhang, given the last fight, has possibilities.

Listen to me cully, until you bend the knee and lick my boots, I'll never speak to you as a man. You're a mouse and shithaus one at that.

Boxing scene blue print ,jump right on the last winner of every fight and talk like you study fights and come up with actual credible points not just bc one guy lost the last fight,if it were a game and a team you guys would put the forum under and drowned it a long time ago .

Note : About 1. % on here actually watch fights over and try and break them down , the beta male era has really weakened the era ,thank god you guys are just a small forum in the big picture bc casually fans getting info from you guys would absolutely murder the sport . The OP himself has mental issues and buries himself without even realizing it ? Lol

You're a compulsive liar, coward, and a paranoid skitz. You never did shit and never will...all you do is lie. You could be shown a red box and swear it's blue. You're a mentally ill disrupter and outranked on all levels. Stand down Francis...nobody here cares what you have to say. You're the laughing stock of boxingscene and everbody knows your a phoney bologna.

I do believe Joshua has the best shot at Usyk since he’s fought him twice ,would others ? Not really . Usyk is that guy you got to really get a gage on ..in this instance Joshua has the best shot in that category…….I also think DDD will give him a hard time he has the blue print so I wouldn’t be shocked at all in that one if he won ,though he shouldn’t .

Case in point. AJ could fight Usyk 100 x and will loss 100x.

[Toffee]

Yeah, it’s not like Joyce got shutout and stopped because his entire career he’s shown an inability to move his head.


THIS time will be different.

He doesn't need to become an elite mover. He just needs to do enough to avoid his eye closing in the first half of the fight.

It's not like that's impossible. In fact, it's very probable.

Then it will come down to who performs better. Probably over the full distance.

[billeau2]

Listen to me cully, until you bend the knee and lick my boots, I'll never speak to you as a man. You're a mouse and shithaus one at that.



You're a compulsive liar, coward, and a paranoid skitz. You never did shit and never will...all you do is lie. You could be shown a red box and swear it's blue. You're a mentally ill disrupter and outranked on all levels. Stand down Francis...nobody here cares what you have to say. You're the laughing stock of boxingscene and everbody knows your a phoney bologna.



Case in point. AJ could fight Usyk 100 x and will loss 100x.

I liked because of the first comment, you "not speaking" to me is a good thing. I encourage it.. Your about the last person to make the accusations you make towards J. Sounds like your describing yourself frankly. It is interesting that you claim to know how the odds work... And make that statement about the AJ Usyk fight. Dead giveaway that you yet again, know shiat about something you claim to be knowlegable about. Here is a hint: it doesn't matter IF you believe AJ could beat Usyk, would you give 100 to one odds on the fight? Most bookies would not lol.

[War Room]

I liked because of the first comment, you "not speaking" to me is a good thing. I encourage it.. Your about the last person to make the accusations you make towards J. Sounds like your describing yourself frankly. It is interesting that you claim to know how the odds work... And make that statement about the AJ Usyk fight. Dead giveaway that you yet again, know shiat about something you claim to be knowlegable about. Here is a hint: it doesn't matter IF you believe AJ could beat Usyk, would you give 100 to one odds on the fight? Most bookies would not lol.

Listen to be you fat slob, I've got a long history being a respected capper and probably made more money at the time than you did irl. Stick to what you know =--->

[JakeTheBoxer]

Joyce will lose again, he can`t move his head and he can`t block the punches either.

It is only a question in which round Zhang damages his eye again.

[JakeTheBoxer]

He doesn't need to become an elite mover. He just needs to do enough to avoid his eye closing in the first half of the fight.

It's not like that's impossible. In fact, it's very probable.

Then it will come down to who performs better. Probably over the full distance.

Well, my friend, if one guy punches the other guy all night over and over again on the same place, what would you expect to happen?

Why you guys pretend like his damaged eye was some coincidence?

[billeau2]

Listen to be you fat slob, I've got a long history being a respected capper and probably made more money at the time than you did irl. Stick to what you know =--->

I thought we weren't talking? what happened? Another lie, what a suprise! A capper that does not understand what odds basically mean. yeah I don't know about the subject and EVEN I know YDKSAC!

Dan Inosanto is rarified air, thank you!!

So are we talking? Or not? I left you a couple of spelling errors ok? You want me to let you have the last word. no problem, I aim to please.