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  • #71
    Originally posted by satiev1 View Post

    horn was undefeated and just beat a hof legend in manny. Fulton had 2 md wins against bums and then almost got stopped by figueroa. He was waiting to be stopped.
    Look at horns resume then, has he looked unbeatable in his time?. Didn't people think he lost to pac in australia?

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Gary Coleman View Post

      You wrote all that for no damn reason. I said his resume isn't great and I'm right. Oscar has a better resume.

      Again, it has nothing to do with Bud's talent.
      Clearly....because talking to ignorant mfers with an agenda is pointless. As I pointed out....you couldn't name these legends opponents beyond their high profile fights without a WiFi connection....but there resume is better........Here's the hard facts.......Crawford dominated everyone he's fought and accomplished more than Oscar regardless of your opinion and comparisons. You are dismissed. No need to continue this conversation.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View Post

        In TODAYS boxing the answer is “no” BUT on the grand scale of boxing HISTORY. He is still very iffy. Damn good fighter but how would he fair with a PRIME Mayweather. Delahoya, Pac, Mosley, Trinidad, Winky, Whitaker, Leonard & Hearns???????
        I just don’t see him whipping any of them.
        I see him beating all of them with Whitaker & Trinidad being the 50/50 fights.......No knock on any of the greats you mentioned....but there are flaws in each that Crawford's IQ will definitely pick up on if they were in the ring together. None of those names dismantled a p4p equal in their prime like Crawford did Spence and Gamboa. Manny had multiple opportunities to face Crawford and for whatever reason you choose to believe, both Freddie Roach and Bob Arum made sure the fight didn't occur, even before Manny left Top Rank for PBC.

        I mean, we could go back and forth on these hypothetical scenarios for decades.....one this that is clear though is that Crawford is far from "iffy"..... What he's accomplished in his career was no accident and no man in history can casually win 9 world titles across 3 divisions. But it seems so many choose to try and throw salt at his accomplishments simply because he doesn't come from a pedigree, or doesn't showcase a certain character, or he simply is the opponent of a certain fan's favorite fighter........ From Prescott to Burns to Gamboa to Postol to Horn to Khan to Brook to Porter to Spence.......Crawford has always been doubted leading up to the fight only for those same people to move the goal post, belittle the opponent to discredit the dominance he showcased. It's nothing new for those who have paid attention to his career. No need to convince any random fan that he deserves to be highly regarded like one would a Mayweather, Mosley, Oscar, Leonard, etc.....rather than suggesting he is iffy...... His accomplishments speak for themselves. The boxing pundits and those with a HOF vote already have his as a first ballot entry being that he is the ONLY active fighter to have his fist engraved in that ceremony..... And those names you mentioned above.....Each of them have spoken highly of his abilities, value, and presence in this sport......... So who are we as fans to claim his status is........"iffy".......lol

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        • #74
          Originally posted by ELPacman View Post
          TLDR. No idea what the TS is talking about since I didn't read. Though to sum to the conclusion, Crawford is TMFM right now. Give him his flowers (so gay but that's what they like to say now). He deserves all the recognition possible before retirement.
          Oh, you are one of those who don't like to read..... That's coo. I can help.......

          I pretty much said exactly what you said here, just detailed the nonsense surrounding his career trying to discredit his accomplishments.

          P.S.......how is "give him his flowers".....so gay? You do know that term has nothing to do with intimacy right?.....People bring flowers to a funeral to pay respect to a valued individual. Give him his flowers means, DON'T WAIT TIL THE MAN IS DEAD AND GONE before you appreciate him........

          You must be a young one.....

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Str8.2.Da.Point View Post

            I see him beating all of them with Whitaker & Trinidad being the 50/50 fights.......No knock on any of the greats you mentioned....but there are flaws in each that Crawford's IQ will definitely pick up on if they were in the ring together. None of those names dismantled a p4p equal in their prime like Crawford did Spence and Gamboa. Manny had multiple opportunities to face Crawford and for whatever reason you choose to believe, both Freddie Roach and Bob Arum made sure the fight didn't occur, even before Manny left Top Rank for PBC.

            I mean, we could go back and forth on these hypothetical scenarios for decades.....one this that is clear though is that Crawford is far from "iffy"..... What he's accomplished in his career was no accident and no man in history can casually win 9 world titles across 3 divisions. But it seems so many choose to try and throw salt at his accomplishments simply because he doesn't come from a pedigree, or doesn't showcase a certain character, or he simply is the opponent of a certain fan's favorite fighter........ From Prescott to Burns to Gamboa to Postol to Horn to Khan to Brook to Porter to Spence.......Crawford has always been doubted leading up to the fight only for those same people to move the goal post, belittle the opponent to discredit the dominance he showcased. It's nothing new for those who have paid attention to his career. No need to convince any random fan that he deserves to be highly regarded like one would a Mayweather, Mosley, Oscar, Leonard, etc.....rather than suggesting he is iffy...... His accomplishments speak for themselves. The boxing pundits and those with a HOF vote already have his as a first ballot entry being that he is the ONLY active fighter to have his fist engraved in that ceremony..... And those names you mentioned above.....Each of them have spoken highly of his abilities, value, and presence in this sport......... So who are we as fans to claim his status is........"iffy".......lol
            Think about this era of Crawford and Spence. No other exist.
            Back in the day there was Delahoya, Mayweather, Pac, Trinidad, Mosley, Cotto, Vargas & Forest.

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            • #76
              All the fake fcuks who continue to sh.it on Bud while calling themselves "knowledgable boxing fans" are still salty af they got proven wrong. Those the type of punks who reneg on bets, talk sh.it behind peoples back and more than likely get cucked by their gf/wife.
              Str8.2.Da.Point Str8.2.Da.Point likes this.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Str8.2.Da.Point View Post

                Oh, you are one of those who don't like to read..... That's coo. I can help.......

                I pretty much said exactly what you said here, just detailed the nonsense surrounding his career trying to discredit his accomplishments.

                P.S.......how is "give him his flowers".....so gay? You do know that term has nothing to do with intimacy right?.....People bring flowers to a funeral to pay respect to a valued individual. Give him his flowers means, DON'T WAIT TIL THE MAN IS DEAD AND GONE before you appreciate him........

                You must be a young one.....
                Hey, I got what the meaning behind giving the flowers is, I just think it's an over used term now. It's become meta for anyone that's achieved just about anything.

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                • #78
                  It's funny how the Crawford haters were all touting Spence's resume as being so much better, even though his best win was Danny Garcia. Garcia avoided Crawford at all costs. Crawford defeated Porter and Brook easier than Spence did. When Crawford stopped a prime Gamboa no one gave him credit for that win...when Tank struggled with a shot and injured Gamboa, PBC fans were praising his performance. Crawford makes easy work of Spence, and the excuses haven't stopped flowing this hard since Wilder got KTFO by Fury.

                  Boxing is a very tribal sport now. Divided by fans of promoters/networks/Managers/coaches instead of fans who actually appreciated a great fighter regardless of which promoter he is signed up with.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Str8.2.Da.Point View Post

                    Clearly....because talking to ignorant mfers with an agenda is pointless. As I pointed out....you couldn't name these legends opponents beyond their high profile fights without a WiFi connection....but there resume is better........Here's the hard facts.......Crawford dominated everyone he's fought and accomplished more than Oscar regardless of your opinion and comparisons. You are dismissed. No need to continue this conversation.
                    The level of competition you fought matters. Just because YOU don't know who others have fought in the past, don't project that on to me.

                    Oscar has wins over Chavez, Pernell, Camacho, Quartey, Vargas, etc. if you wanna count Mosley II or Tito that's fine as well. 10 world titles across 6 divisions. (5, really *Sturm*)

                    Holds more weight than Bud unifying a weak 140 division. Sure it looks good on paper, but let's be real.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

                      Not his fault there’s no hall of famers to beat
                      But that don’t take away anything from what he’s accomplished
                      Just had an easier route
                      Funny thing is if Spence won , you guys would be praising him as the best ever for beating Bud
                      Wasn’t Crawford and Pacquiao with the same company? If Spence would have won y’all would have said he aged Crawford out and that Crawford hasn’t beat anyone. It goes both ways

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