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  • #51
    Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

    Nah mate I have never set foot in prison, Ive just been around and never BSed anyone I believe in being real and that has stood me well in life.
    Makes me glad to hear that
    Much respect
    I hear you loud and clear

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    • #52
      Originally posted by daggum View Post

      He has no great wins against prime opponents and you know that. Yeah his resume is better than most but great tier? No. A lot of good to pretty good wins but quality over quantity is what is important. Sugar Ray Leonard has 4 wins better than any Floyd win
      So what Sugar has 4 better wins, lmao. Not everyone can fight a Benitez, Duran, Hearns and Haglerin the prime let alone around their weight. But to say that Floyd has no great wins against prime opponents is just plain asinine. Not even Floyd’s critics would side with that sad sorry ass comment, lmao. It’s the same old song that you guys can’t even sing lmao. No Floyd isn’t the goat, but he was a helluva fighter.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
        It will always be in question because there are no other greats in his divisions, I think buds resume would be hard-pressed to beat Cotto, but its not Buds fault its the era doesn't have all these transitionals from the end of one era and the new ones in the new era, last time around you Oscar Mosely Cotto Manny Canelo Floyd, all great fighters then you had another bunch that were real solid Judah Maidana etc its just the way it is and a shame the competition is not there for Bud as he is all class without a real dance partner near his ability.
        The real dance partner around his ability was Spence and he washed him. Many greats who have started out at 135 and went to 147 didn’t get the true credit that they deserved until they got to 147. Duran, Sweetpea, Dlh, Shane and many others had good resumes at 135 and maybe even 140. But 147 is and a,ways has been a hot commodity. Only the greats can climb from 135 to 147 and have success let alone go undefeated. Cotto has a fine resume in terms of facing guys, but he really has no signature win against a guy who was hyped up as Spence. But that doesn’t take away from his good wins. All a man can do is fight who is in front of them. Bud has beaten everyone from 135-147 so far. He is looking for that guy that everyone says can beat him. So far zippo…
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        • #54
          Originally posted by Teetotaler69 View Post
          Crawford is a euro bum
          Shut up ******.... Crawford's from the United States. Slap yourself

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          • #55
            He fought who he could fight.

            It was weird, pre spence everyone was saying his resume is chit and then post spence people were actually saying its great and that is just a difference of 1 fight.

            The only thing he did wrong was renew with Arum who blocked him from PBC fighters, it was also an even worse move because Arum denied him Pac which was the entire point of even being a top rank welter at that point.

            Hes on an 11 fight KO streak and that still means something to me. There are guys fighting bums all the time and unable to take them out. He is breaking all these guys down, bum or not, hasnt went the distance since Postal a unification fight and he boxed that fight didnt look for the KO., I took his streak into account when picking a stoppage win over spence and its what will also make me pick a stopage over Tim Zsyu or Charlo

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            • #56
              No! The man is a generational talent and an all-time great boxer. He can only fight the guys of his era.

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              • #57
                - - Spence clearly off balance vs Ugas and just as bad vs Craw. Not the Spence that beat Porter, Brooksie, ect.

                Holmes vs Ali weak as a schoolboy anyone?

                Craw is a victim of himself. Has all the charisma and charm of a rattlesnake and not only difficult to deal with businesswise, it's like he don't care about anything but being azzz.

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                • #58
                  He's only beaten Spence

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
                    It will always be in question because there are no other greats in his divisions, I think buds resume would be hard-pressed to beat Cotto, but its not Buds fault its the era doesn't have all these transitionals from the end of one era and the new ones in the new era, last time around you Oscar Mosely Cotto Manny Canelo Floyd, all great fighters then you had another bunch that were real solid Judah Maidana etc its just the way it is and a shame the competition is not there for Bud as he is all class without a real dance partner near his ability.
                    Arguably Cotto's top names on his resume resulted in a loss for him. It's easy to look back at a previous era and say that "this" fighters resume is better than a current fighter's resume is because the guys in the moment haven't finished their career along with some of the guys they competed with. Only thing you can do, that's accurate is judge an athlete vs his competition during the time he's competing. Crawford has 14 world champions on his resume. More than half of them were undefeated going into the fight. Crawford stopped 11 of them. And you can only point out maybe 3/4 of them that won more than 3 rounds during the bout. That's dominance over the field.

                    We gotta stop claiming that Crawford's resume doesn't match up to guys who fought before him, when they didn't come close to accomplishing what he has. Crawford has went through 3 divisions now and became the LINEAL champion in each. Undisputed in 2 of them. Accomplishments like that don't come by accident. And if they were easy to accomplish.... How is it that before Crawford became undisputed at 140, it hadn't been done in over a decade during the 4 belt era...and since then, it's now becoming an ultimate goal for fighters. Now that Crawford has done it in 2 divisions, it raises the bar for the fighters to consider themselves elite above their peers.

                    And the thing is....Crawford is still in motion. He's aiming for a 3rd undisputed at 154lbs...... Don't compare his resume to the Cotto's of the world... I respect those fighters (I'm actually a fan of Cotto and Judah and Maidana). We are discrediting Crawford based on popular names that we recognize, not by accomplishments of those fighters. A world champion/ ranked opponent is a world champion/ranked opponent. They do what they do vs their opposition to get to the level they get to. Gamboa, Postol, Indongo, Horn, Benavidez, Kavaliauskas, Spence, etc..... Those are all champions, former Olympians, and/or highly ranked (or mandatory) fighters that deserved their spot going into a fight vs Crawford and they were undefeated. How they were able to bounce back MAY just have something to do with the fact they fought Crawford who doesn't just damage you physically, but it's also a mental whipping in that ring. We sought it in color vs Porter.....Never seen Porter so frustrated in his career.

                    Crawford has been telling us who he is..... We should start believing him rather than using the energy we used to claim he'll be exposed by the next opponent and then creating excuses on why that opponent failed post fight.......
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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by elfag View Post
                      He fought who he could fight.

                      It was weird, pre spence everyone was saying his resume is chit and then post spence people were actually saying its great and that is just a difference of 1 fight.


                      The only thing he did wrong was renew with Arum who blocked him from PBC fighters, it was also an even worse move because Arum denied him Pac which was the entire point of even being a top rank welter at that point.

                      Hes on an 11 fight KO streak and that still means something to me. There are guys fighting bums all the time and unable to take them out. He is breaking all these guys down, bum or not, hasnt went the distance since Postal a unification fight and he boxed that fight didnt look for the KO., I took his streak into account when picking a stoppage win over spence and its what will also make me pick a stopage over Tim Zsyu or Charlo

                      probably why he wants charlo at 154 because it would make him undisputed in 3 different weight classes.

                      Other than that I don't see too many HOFs around his weight class. He would have to go up to 168 and fight Canelo

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