Lets assume Spence was healthy: How much credit does Crawford deserved for beating him

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  • dan_cov
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    #11
    He would deserve a lot of credit more so because of Spences accomplishments than anything else.
    Very good but not a great win vs a guy who is stylistically made to order.

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    • satiev1
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      #12
      Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
      What I'm saying is lets just ignore all of Spence's baggage and pretend he was 100%. How much credit does Crawford deserve for beating him? I think it's a solid win, but people shouldn't get carried and start comparing him to Floyd and Manny. At the end of the day Spence was a B level fighter who beat other B level fighters. Does beating someone at that level make you an ATG?
      Spence p4p was way better than corrales or any of floyd's wins. Sorry.

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      • Floyd is TBE
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        #13
        Originally posted by satiev1

        Spence p4p was way better than corrales or any of floyd's wins. Sorry.
        Weak troll attempt. At least put some effort into it. This is why no one takes you seriously.

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        • FinitoxDinamita
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          #14
          He deserves full credit. All that 87% Spence, 100% Spence is nonsense of an excuse.

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          • Charlie Zelenoff
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            #15
            Full credit. He annihilated Spence.

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            • Combat Talk Radio
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              #16
              He gets credit for the win regardless - because if Spence was NOT healthy, that's Spence's fault.

              I just feel that until we answer that question, the boxing community was cheated out of what should have been a competitive match - and I'm not sold that skill was the only factor.

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                #17
                “Let’s pretend”

                like you’re all pretending he wasn’t 100? All because he talks like an idiot and looked like **** against Bud?

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                • Floyd is TBE
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by _Rexy_
                  “Let’s pretend”

                  like you’re all pretending he wasn’t 100? All because he talks like an idiot and looked like **** against Bud?
                  Multiple fatal car crashes
                  Torn retina
                  Over a year long layoff

                  I've seen this forum try and discredit great wins over far less than what Spence went through.

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                  • Bostonfear
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                    #19
                    The problem is Bud didn't beat Spence because Spence was off. He beat him because he figured him out and his style.

                    But was a state level wrestler. He was able to control spence on the inside by pinning his shoulder into the chest of Spence. There for being vertical while your opponent is square and their sight is blocked. Spence actually does that exact samething to everyone else when he goes to work on the inside.

                    Crawfords wrestling background just makes him able to control that space. He neutralised the main way in which Spence fights on the inside.

                    And once you do that, Spences defense isnt good enough. He has always only backed up in a straight line his whole career. Theres more to it than just that, he was also counting his jab. And a few other things like how good Crawford is at puching down at dipping opponents and countering

                    Its not like it was a close fight, Spence was just too weak and tired. The dude lost because tactically he was completely outboxed and out thought
                    Last edited by Bostonfear; 08-04-2023, 07:50 PM.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Floyd is TBE

                      Multiple fatal car crashes
                      Torn retina
                      Over a year long layoff

                      I've seen this forum try and discredit great wins over far less than what Spence went through.
                      I don’t think you know what that means.

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