For those who claim Pacquiao is on steroids

[Al Haymon]

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[Al Haymon]

...and , yes. I'm a shill for Fourth Wall because they treat me like platinum.

[IMDAZED]

http://maloneyandporcelli.com/

Thanks, bud.

[Al Haymon]

Thanks, bud.

I sent you a PM.

[Al Haymon]

This story is in no way an accusation or an inference that Manny and Batista do roids together. Merely showing that news organizations are picking up the steroid rumours and linking the two.

And that isn't good for manny, because of course Batista gears.
Nearly every wrestler gears...including probably HHH who walked Floyd to the ring.




Manny Pacquiao and Dave Batista accused of taking steroids and HGH


http://www.examiner.com/x-13475-Pro-...eroids-and-HGH

[Maidana vs Rios]

That is very interesting. Agree completely, we should be su****ious of any boxers who associate with juicer WWE types. Logic dictates we should first investigate those boxers who actually participate in WWE.












oh my the hits just keep on coming.

[Doctor_Tenma]

This story is in no way an accusation or an inference that Manny and Batista do roids together. Merely showing that news organizations are picking up the steroid rumours and linking the two.

And that isn't good for manny, because of course Batista gears.
Nearly every wrestler gears...including probably HHH who walked Floyd to the ring.




Manny Pacquiao and Dave Batista accused of taking steroids and HGH


http://www.examiner.com/x-13475-Pro-...eroids-and-HGH

Never knew this, interesting.

[Al Haymon]

That is very interesting. Agree completely, we should be su****ious of any boxers who associate with juicer WWE types. Logic dictates we should first investigate those boxers who actually participate in WWE.

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Yeah... you would probably benefit by actually reading my post. With all due respect, you could have spared the redundancy.

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If you notice, I didn't just say "Yeah, Pac is doing steroids. I don't know why, but I just feel that way."

That is not what i did.

I clearly said the evidence was circumstantial. I clearly said that this 'evidence' should not be enough to indict or convict MP. It is the opinion of one man. And I listed the reasons why I have that opinion. As a guy who has trained in gyms, and has participated in a combat sport, I know the culture.

The LEAST IMPORTANT factor that I consider is the "nice guy defense". And the principal defense I keep hearing for Manny is that he is a nice, good, humble guy. That has proven to be completely unreliable. Here are some "nice guys" who roided out: Shane Mosley, David Ortiz, Andy Petitte.

Andy Pettitte is super-religious. By all accounts, a devoted family man. Evander holyfield walks into the ring to gospel music and talks about Jesus constantly. Shane is a naturally gifted athlete who, like Manny, presumably wouldn't need roids to compete at a high level. Again, by all accounts, Shane is a "nice guy. A "good guy". A credit to the sport, right? Well.... he did steroids.

The realities of modern sports - heck, of modern life - is that people get painted by a certain brush based on factors not in their control...or because of their environment.

You may be the world's best 21 year old driver. Never had a ticket or accident. But you know what? The insurance compoany is still going to charge you a high rate for car insurance. That is just how life works.

In this age of sports, where nearly every top athlete in sports has been busted for PED's after we celebrated their too-good-to-be-true performances, it makes us think twice. You don't think there are whispers about Usain Bolt?

How many of the past few baseball MVP's were found to be roiding?
NFL defensive stars like Shawne Merriman? Half the Raiders and 49ers.
Most of the track records of the past few years have been wiped out or tainted by drugs.
Evander Holyfield, Shane Mosley and Roy Jones put on lean muscle...and all were geared up.

Again, this is not an accusation or an allegation. It is my opinion. If you asked me to bet my mortgage, I would say 'Yes, Manny Pacquiao has used PED's".

If you say that opinion is biased or blind, then you are not very smart. Because I have given you all of the factors I considered in shaping that opinion.

I'm not here to say that pac is a living saint or the second coming that he is incapable of doing bad deeds, rather I want to know if the people who think that he's on roids have enough reasoning behind them.

You stated your factors and I respected them that's why I tried to give my rebuttals and now I'm awaiting yours. I clearly understood that these are your opinions if you read my post again but I don't get where all these "good guy" thing came from. Never did I say that he is too good to take them, the closest statement I gave was that he was too proud to be disowned by his country with all the risks involved. It was more to make you realize how huge the risk is, compared to the reward... I didn't mean that pac is buddha.

The rest of the stuffs you mentioned here are tarnishes to the sport not pac. Just because alot of athletes are being drawn to steroids, it doesn't mean that pac is one of them. When hearing such generalizations, I can't help but wonder what if more people were like this. Imagine someone struggling from the ****** to rise above and get a good education but can't seem to find a decent job because of some invisible text on his resume, or ambassadors from countries getting mugged or worse.

We are talking about Pac himself, not those people you just mentioned. If sports in general is already that dirty as a whole, let's not try to blemish the last remaining clean spots left.

Again, I'm gonna ask if you are open minded enough to continue a decent discussion. The last thing in the world I want to do is argue with someone who covers his ears and spout "...well, I heard from a friend of a friend of a friend that so and so is hooking up with her.." or "...she has a bruise, I heard her mom was being unfaithful so her dad beat both of them..." or "he is so nice, he must be a pedo" or someone who hides behind his mom's back and shout "You are a slut, and I can say anything I want. You can't get me!". This isn't the school cafeteria and I know you aren't a highschool chick.

[ummid]

This story is in no way an accusation or an inference that Manny and Batista do roids together. Merely showing that news organizations are picking up the steroid rumours and linking the two.

And that isn't good for manny, because of course Batista gears.
Nearly every wrestler gears...including probably HHH who walked Floyd to the ring.




Manny Pacquiao and Dave Batista accused of taking steroids and HGH




http://www.examiner.com/x-13475-Pro-...eroids-and-HGH

I actually agree with the writer of that article. That last statement pretty much sums up alot of people's views.