How about making boxers accountable for taking long layoffs?

[al-Xander]

Lemme just put it out there as a reminder.

We need to explain why they're given slack for not expecting them to do well in their next fight as if it's someone else's fault they chose to be inactive. I can understand when it comes to non-established boxers, because they're rarely offered even stay-busy fights and at the mercy of various factors working against their favors.

[Smash]

a lot of them are afraid to take a 'tune up' for fear of it ruining their payday, u see that quite a lot when a big fight in on the horizon

[al-Xander]

a lot of them are afraid to take a 'tune up' for fear of it ruining their payday, u see that quite a lot when a big fight in on the horizon

I understand. This is more about fans giving them instant excuse when they're not expected to perform well as if it's someone else's fault.

[Smash]

I understand. This is more about fans giving them instant excuse when they're not expected to perform well as if it's someone else's fault.

yes, u only really see the best out of these guys when they are fighting regularly injury free etc & fans always hold out hope they can somehow find the best form after long layoffs etc but its usually a forlorn hope but the odd guy can pull it off, fans expect it to be their guy

[juggernaut666]

Long lay offs aren’t an excuse though it’s reality ,it’s always a factor against the fighter unless there’s some special circumstance which is rare . Spence losing was always going to more attributed by the 15 month lay off wheather he was going to do better or not . If it wasn’t no doubt he’d have performed ether even in a loss coupled with outside ring troubles.

On the subject, take note those picking Wilder to defeat Joshua who will absolutely steam roll him if Wilder goes into that fight with 1 round in nearly 2 years when it happens . Lol

[al-Xander]

On the subject, take note those picking Wilder to defeat Joshua who will absolutely steam roll him if Wilder goes into that fight with 1 round in nearly 2 years when it happens . Lol

So what's the assessment here between Joshua and Wilder? AJ chose to be active by taking 2 interim fights while Wilder would be in his 1 year layoff by the time he fights Joshua. Is AJ supposed to be at an advantage because he chose to be active? Or Wilder has more advantage because he's well rested and didn't take any form of stress-inducing activities like training for fights, sparring sessions, stay-busy fights themselves, etc.

[just the facts]

Lemme just put it out there as a reminder.

We need to explain why they're given slack for not expecting them to do well in their next fight as if it's someone else's fault they chose to be inactive. I can understand when it comes to non-established boxers, because they're rarely offered even stay-busy fights and at the mercy of various factors working against their favors.

I guess I’m missing the point. How in the hell do you hold a fighter accountable for taking time off?

[juggernaut666]

So what's the assessment here between Joshua and Wilder? AJ chose to be active by taking 2 interim fights while Wilder would be in his 1 year layoff by the time he fights Joshua. Is AJ supposed to be at an advantage because he chose to be active? Or Wilder has more advantage because he's well rested and didn't take any form of stress-inducing activities like training for fights, sparring sessions, stay-busy fights themselves, etc.

Joshua will have had fought Usyk twice , Franklin and Whyte all add up to over 36 rounds depending where Whyte ends up it won’t matter match Joshua went the distance 3 times if he somehow did go the distance with Whyte which is highly unlikely it still wouldn’t matter because the Wilder fight is about a 95% ending up as a knockout.

Joshuas activity clearly puts him at a huge advantage just on that alone and only the sheep will put money on Wilder that actually think he’s going to win mostly average bettors who don’t follow boxing and won’t realize many things on stats .

When one can go into a fight with such inactivity as Wilder giving up a huge skill disadvantage in the first place , two terrible knockout losses by a guy who had decent boxing Fury ( doesn’t Joshua ? ) and is injury prone ? I don’t know about you but I sure have a good idea who’s going to win or should definitely win that one and unless someone’s getting 3 to 1 on Wilder odds then take Wilder but I actually think he’s the favorite ?

[tomhawq]

I understand. This is more about fans giving them instant excuse when they're not expected to perform well as if it's someone else's fault.

Yeah, that's what I have noticed. Fans mentioning long layoff when the fighter doesn't perform well. It's no different from saying he didn't train well, therefore... It should be followed by...therefore, it's his fault he didn't train properly. Saying otherwise absolves him from any responsibility for his actions.

[El_Mero]

a lot of them are afraid to take a 'tune up' for fear of it ruining their payday, u see that quite a lot when a big fight in on the horizon

Cruz anyone, anyone? Lololololol