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  • boxingitis
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    #21
    Originally posted by dan_cov


    Why do Crawford fans always have to speculate what others will think or say to justify him not having to fight the obvious top fighters alongside him? I.E Boots or Vergil Ortiz when he was active

    Tale end of his career then he better get a move on.
    You're the one always denying Crawfords greatness and making excueses for the boxers he beats up.

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    • TheWinners
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      #22
      Originally posted by wrecksracer

      Crawford was ready to fight those PBC guys at any time. Everybody heard their "other side of the street" excuse. If they waited until they weren't 100%, that's on them. They were being advised to not fight him.
      Yall keep saying he was ready to fight those guys but it's bs. He knew he wouldn't get those fights if he resigned with Bob Arum. That's why the entire world didn't expect him to do so. He didn't have to sign with PBC. He could've done exactly what he did here with the Spence fight. But he didnt.

      Then turns and sues his promoter claiming he wasn't marketed right and didn't get him the fights. Im no fan of Arum but he got this man big paydays fighting guys he was always big favorites over.

      He could've been a free agent and fought all those PBC guys if he wanted to. He just didn't want to which is why he resigned with Arum. Then towards the end of his contract when taking all this flack for his opposition, he used his promoter as the scapegoat.

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      • factsarenice
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        #23
        Originally posted by dan_cov
        Who cares he is old coming off an injury, will be coming off a loss & drained.

        How about Bud fights someone who isn't at the tale end of their career or/& crippled for once.
        I wish you were wrong but....you're not.

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        • factsarenice
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          #24
          Originally posted by dan_cov


          Why do Crawford fans always have to speculate what others will think or say to justify him not having to fight the obvious top fighters alongside him? I.E Boots or Vergil Ortiz when he was active

          Tale end of his career then he better get a move on.
          This coming from a guy that guaranteed Spence would stop Crawford. Better to have people think you are ****** than open your mouth and remove all doubt....namsayn?

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          • Godsfly
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            #25
            Originally posted by wrecksracer

            PBC worked with Top Rank before, and will again. They just didn't want to in Crawford's case for obvious reasons. It was bad for business. Haymon knew that Crawford would beat all his guys. "Other side of the street" was a convenient smokescreen. It was a plain duck.
            So what if pbc worked with top rank before. rarely have they ever. Also did u not forget that Arum himself was warring with crawford his own fighter. He said that haymon or any promoter would be an idiot to pay crawford what he wants with all of the money he was losing the company. Arum tore crawford a new one and Crawford's still chose to resign with arum. Only at the end did he leave. Stop lying for crawford. He made horrible buisness decisions and only after everyone had beaten each other to a pulp thats when crawford came around collecting belts. Crawford is my pfp 1 but this revisionist of history has gotten out of control. It wasn't some big conspiracy against crawford. It wasn't that all of showtime hated crawford. The world wasn't against crawford. No. He just made bad decisions and was in a war with his own promoter in arum. Waited in till all of the great welterweight beat up each other and started collecting belts after all was said and done.
            Last edited by Godsfly; 08-01-2023, 10:51 AM.

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            • Godsfly
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              #26
              This is why 154 is more important then what guys think it is for crawford. 154 presents a place where guys are still a bit fresh. There is no unique advantage that crawford would have. And jermell in my book is being heavily underrated. I would even like to see crawford in with a guy like Brian Castano. Someone with a tough chin knows how to get to you and consistently disrupt your boxing ability. Or even a older lara. Somone with length 75 inch reach, the way he throws, fully hides his power shots. Point is. 154 is not gonna be some easy challenge for terrence it will be his most toughest based on the freshness of the division.

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              • factsarenice
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                #27
                Originally posted by TheWinners

                Yall keep saying he was ready to fight those guys but it's bs. He knew he wouldn't get those fights if he resigned with Bob Arum. That's why the entire world didn't expect him to do so. He didn't have to sign with PBC. He could've done exactly what he did here with the Spence fight. But he didnt.

                Then turns and sues his promoter claiming he wasn't marketed right and didn't get him the fights. Im no fan of Arum but he got this man big paydays fighting guys he was always big favorites over.

                He could've been a free agent and fought all those PBC guys if he wanted to. He just didn't want to which is why he resigned with Arum. Then towards the end of his contract when taking all this flack for his opposition, he used his promoter as the scapegoat.
                Signing with the PBC guarantees NOTHING, it just provides content for Showtime....Just ask David Benavidez and Jemall Charlo

                Maybe you missed it ....Crawford offered Danny Garcia $5 million, Danny said "we goin another way", Danny fought Granados for 1$ million. Arum offered Keith $10 million, Keith demanded 20 and ended up fighting Manny for $7 Million with back end included. Porter and Spence agreed to fight Crawford and neither finished the fight. I can go on and on but you get the point.... and if you don't it's because you can't handle the truth.

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                • wrecksracer
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by TheWinners

                  Yall keep saying he was ready to fight those guys but it's bs. He knew he wouldn't get those fights if he resigned with Bob Arum. That's why the entire world didn't expect him to do so. He didn't have to sign with PBC. He could've done exactly what he did here with the Spence fight. But he didnt.

                  Then turns and sues his promoter claiming he wasn't marketed right and didn't get him the fights. Im no fan of Arum but he got this man big paydays fighting guys he was always big favorites over.

                  He could've been a free agent and fought all those PBC guys if he wanted to. He just didn't want to which is why he resigned with Arum. Then towards the end of his contract when taking all this flack for his opposition, he used his promoter as the scapegoat.
                  I think it's great that he got Bob to overpay him, and then got PBC to pay more for him than they wanted to. Poor PBC and Top Rank playing checkers, while Crawford was playing chess. What stooge does PBC have for him next? These guys made themselves look great by facing PBC level talent, while avoiding the real threat. You know PBC tried to weasel out of the first Spence/Crawford negotiations by underpaying him, right? They straight up didn't want to fight him, even after he was a free agent.

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                  • buddyr
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                    #29
                    there won't be much left of Charlo after Canelo destroys him.

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                    • buddyr
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by TheWinners

                      Yall keep saying he was ready to fight those guys but it's bs. He knew he wouldn't get those fights if he resigned with Bob Arum. That's why the entire world didn't expect him to do so. He didn't have to sign with PBC. He could've done exactly what he did here with the Spence fight. But he didnt.

                      Then turns and sues his promoter claiming he wasn't marketed right and didn't get him the fights. Im no fan of Arum but he got this man big paydays fighting guys he was always big favorites over.

                      He could've been a free agent and fought all those PBC guys if he wanted to. He just didn't want to which is why he resigned with Arum. Then towards the end of his contract when taking all this flack for his opposition, he used his promoter as the scapegoat.
                      That was my ONLY problem with Crawford. Once he was a free agent, he re-signs back with the guy that couldn't get him the big fights. It made no sense then, but it makes sense now. It was a smart business move. But I still have a problem with it.

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