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  • #41
    Originally posted by elfag View Post



    Bingo. You could really break up Chin thresholds into two categories. First is what it takes to wobble the guy and second is what it takes to finish them off. Now some like a khan can get sparked clean out pretty easy but spence here he had a low thresh hold to get wobbled. we seen him wobbled many many times. It takes a lot to finish him off but I wouldnt call it a good chin. You want to see a good chin look at Caberra on the undercard eating flush shot after flush shot with no reaction, that is a granite chin right there.

    Spence just has an ability to stay in "bambi legs" mode for a good duration and eat more shots before fully going out. Which actually is not a good cababilty, loss of cordination is a sign of temperary brain damage, its better for you to just go out and end the fight than take more punishment. I hope spence doesnt end up a vegetable.
    Yeah, i say is a questionable chin, is not a solid chin
    thing he always was fighting against guys without power and skills to make him pay.

    For example.

    Who was the bigger puncher he has faced before Spence?

    Danny García? He has not good power in 147.

    He was too overrated

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    • #42
      Originally posted by sicko View Post

      still calling Bull**** on this "Weak Chin" all of a sudden again when someone have a weak Chin and they get caught they tend not to get up
      *****.gif

      even the Final Stoppage, Spence was on his feet

      Bud Crawford is just that good too though, on a historical Knockout Streak, doesn't mean others will have the same success because those others are not anywhere close to Bud Talent and Skill Level
      Thats absurd.

      Khan was in his feet against Maidana.

      Spence has a weak chin
      He was floored 3 times.

      Is not a khan chin, but Spence has not good chin

      But this was the first fight he meet a ****er

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      • #43
        Spence isn't a pfp fighter people have been saying it for a while. Spence chin is weak, unlike fulton who was getting up for more
        Last edited by hugh grant; 07-30-2023, 03:54 PM.
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        • #44
          Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View Post
          His chin is too weak.

          He never fought against any great puncher in his career.

          Brook was not a great puncher with crazy power.

          Danny Garcia? Pillow hands in welterweight division.

          Porter? Another guy without power.

          Ugas? another guy without power.

          Spence was too overrated by the american media, but he has a career fighting with champions that are not in the top-40 of best welterweight in history.

          This was the first big puncher he faced and he looked like bamby.

          He is only a champion in one division, he could not take the power in 154 or 160.

          Crazy people think he had a chance against Canelo in 160...

          But well, Spence defense is garbage, very slow, very basic.

          First good fighter and he looked like crap.

          Porter was his best fighter, a guy that was schooled by Diaz when he was young, and Danny Garcia was schooled by an old Morales.

          Very overrated fighter, good fighter, not elite and his career is pretty normal.

          He is not even better than an old Donaire that proven better quality being an old man against a killer like Inoue in his first fight.

          Listen, is easy put pressure against guy without power or without power with skills.

          Thats what Spence did his whole career, first big puncher with skills and he was destroyed.
          Ill say this: When that jab dropped him, I wondered if he was damaged goods. You think this was inevitable? Or do you think Spence had some issues that affected his punch resistance?

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View Post
            His chin is too weak.

            He never fought against any great puncher in his career.

            Brook was not a great puncher with crazy power.

            Danny Garcia? Pillow hands in welterweight division.

            Porter? Another guy without power.

            Ugas? another guy without power.

            Spence was too overrated by the american media, but he has a career fighting with champions that are not in the top-40 of best welterweight in history.

            This was the first big puncher he faced and he looked like bamby.

            He is only a champion in one division, he could not take the power in 154 or 160.

            Crazy people think he had a chance against Canelo in 160...

            But well, Spence defense is garbage, very slow, very basic.

            First good fighter and he looked like crap.

            Porter was his best fighter, a guy that was schooled by Diaz when he was young, and Danny Garcia was schooled by an old Morales.

            Very overrated fighter, good fighter, not elite and his career is pretty normal.

            He is not even better than an old Donaire that proven better quality being an old man against a killer like Inoue in his first fight.

            Listen, is easy put pressure against guy without power or without power with skills.

            Thats what Spence did his whole career, first big puncher with skills and he was destroyed.
            You are a ****** with limited boxing knowledge however your hindsight skills are remarkable


            Spence was a great fighter its just styles make fights

            Joe Frazier tried walking down Foreman and got bombed out and it would happen if they fought 100 times but joe Frazier at the time in a very strong era would have beat 98 percent of the other heavyweights at the time


            You need to more research on this sport before commenting again

            Spence tried to walk down a puncher which was his strength and it didnt work out. Crawford just has his number because spences strengths compliment crawfords ability

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            • #46
              Originally posted by DoubleMM View Post
              spence has a glass jaw and bad stamina.

              if anyone knows boxing...he was gassed vs Mikey Garcia and Danny Garcia. and those were easy fights.

              he made a career out of sucking himself down to 147 and beating smaller guys.

              he's overrated fighter in general.
              Spence has bad stamina??? Yall are dumb af.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

                Ill say this: When that jab dropped him, I wondered if he was damaged goods. You think this was inevitable? Or do you think Spence had some issues that affected his punch resistance?
                That jab was more the bodyweight and where spences balance was it was a push and a punch at the same time, a ******* jab with crawfords whole bodywieght behind it

                I noticed in this fight the way crawford throws punches he puts his whole body behind it but more so in weight ,gets them off balance then throws the damaging punches when they're off balance its really impressive stuff
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                • #48
                  His punch resistance looked off/weird

                  you could see his legs shaking any time he got touched like I've never seen from him before. If he had a bad chin, you would have seen that from him many times in the past. He had never even touched the floor until last night.

                  Not taking anything from Crawford because its clear his skill set is far superior and would have Spence's number at any point, judging by what we saw. But I believe Spence has some issues.

                  Go watch him speak 5 years ago compared to now, he still had that lazy accent then bit he was far far more lucid than now. Could be accumulation of the crash, sparring, fights, weight etc.

                  Even though he showed great heart, his body wasn't reacting well any time he got touched.

                  I think he wont be the same again. Last night was the end of Errol Spence as a top level fighter.


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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View Post

                    You are wrong.

                    Spence has a Big heart and thats the reason he still going on, but his chin is weak
                    Simple, he was floored in round 2, early, by a punch that was a jab.

                    He was hurt against guys without power like Porter and Ugas.

                    Thats clearly a bad chin.

                    He was floored 3 times and was in Bamby legs all the fight

                    Crawford was his first elite fighter as rival
                    You ignorantly think getting dropped is all about a man’s chin which completely dismisses skills like balance footwork and timing. You prove my point by referencing the first knockdown where Spence got dropped by a power jab. He wasn’t hurt or buzzed by the shot he was caught off balance. That’s wasn’t due to a weak chin, it was getting off balance and out of position. Spence was getting caught off balance the entire fight because he has holes in his footwork, defense, and fighting posture.

                    It’s ok tho. I get that most of you are troll simpletons who don’t really understand the sport/art of boxing. Y’all just play stan wars with the fighters.
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                    • #50
                      For a supposed p4p fighter, Spence had one of the worst defenses ive ever seen.
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