If Spence beats Bud does he have a better run at Welter than Floyd?

[messi807]

He'd have to stop Crawford to be top 5, none of the Fury Wilder I cards. You have Sugar Ray Robertson, Oscar and Trinidad, etc who have existed in the division. Only a stoppage you could say he is top 5 with his flimsy resume.

Oscar lost 3 times at Welter and had a gift. I think Spence's run slightly trumps Trinidads but it's close. He fought FOUR top 5 fighters in a row back to back.

[MONGOOSE66]

This is a genuine question. If Spence beats Bud does he have a better run at Welterweight than Floyd?

Brook, Porter, Danny, Ugas, Bud + undisputed. Cleaned out the entire division. Could’ve had Thurman but he ducked. And the Pac fight got cancelled. So it’s tight.

Ummm, neither had any real tests due to a weak division. I cant blame Floyd for waiting to challenge Delahoya, Mosley, Cotto & Pac till he had more experience but by then they were too old. I give him credit for taking on Canelo. Floyd was already considered old and Canelo was thought a dumb pick at that time.

[messi807]

Floyd's WW resume isn't all that. Pace got better resume than floyd

Pac lost to Floyd, got KO'd by Marquez, lost to Horn & lost to Bradley. LOL This comment just sum's up your knowledge of boxing recently.

[messi807]

Ummm, neither had any real tests due to a weak division. I cant blame Floyd for waiting to challenge Delahoya, Mosley, Cotto & Pac till he had more experience but by then they were too old.

A weak division that would be the strongest division in the world in today's era? Literally makes no sense. Mosley ducked Floyd, Pac turned down blood testing, Bob didn't give Floyd the Oscar fight so he left and Floyd never avoided Cotto. Next. This is a Spence/Floyd post not a 'I still have PTSD from Floyd winning post'.

[Mexican_Puppet]

Oscar lost 3 times at Welter and had a gift. I think Spence's run slightly trumps Trinidads but it's close. He fought FOUR top 5 fighters in a row back to back.

Oscar would win 12 rounds agsinst Danny García , Porter, Brook, etc.

Those ww era Is garbage, except Crawford AND Spence

[messi807]

Oscar would win 12 rounds agsinst Danny García , Porter, Brook, etc.

Those ww era Is garbage, except Crawford AND Spence

Maybe Danny. Brook & Porter would give him fits though. Quartey & a past prime Sweet Pea beat Oscar imo.

[billeau2]

He'd have to stop Crawford to be top 5, none of the Fury Wilder I cards. You have Sugar Ray Robertson, Oscar and Trinidad, etc who have existed in the division. Only a stoppage you could say he is top 5 with his flimsy resume.

Are you saying "stop" Crawford, as in a TKO, or KO? Or generally? If you are including "dominance" as a criteria for greatness, I like it. I often give Ward extra points on the same accord, because he was dominant at Middle/Super Middle. I also like this criteria because we can say that Jones, while he gave the ghost up when he lost to Tarver, was a force of nature while he was on top of his game, which should count.

[MONGOOSE66]

A weak division that would be the strongest division in the world in today's era? Literally makes no sense. Mosley ducked Floyd, Pac turned down blood testing, Bob didn't give Floyd the Oscar fight so he left and Floyd never avoided Cotto. Next. This is a Spence/Floyd post not a 'I still have PTSD from Floyd winning post'.

I’m not shocked it doesn’t make sense to you after hearing how your mind works.
Let me guess, a control freak? I wish I was more like you. Seeing the world the way you want it to be vs the way it is, must be a comfort.

[IronDanHamza]

I'd say no probably not.

[satiev1]

Of course but same is said for bud.