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  • #41
    Originally posted by SteveM View Post

    get informed, it's easy!
    from Wikipedia >
    The first three boxers he trained, Lupe Aquino, Terry Norris, and Orlin Norris, all became world champions. He went on to train other world champions during the 1990s, including Miguel Ángel González, Paul Vaden, Frans Botha, and Nana Konadu

    Golovkin was his last hurrah - not his first rodeo​
    I know he trained other good fighters. I said GGG was his only true star, but should have specified, recently. I said Sanchez is a decent trainer, Terry Norris was also a great fighter. You'd think a guy who trained other champions would have a little more dignity and keep his issues with guys who made him millions private. Sanchez whines about GGG consistently.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by SteveM View Post

      get informed, it's easy!
      from Wikipedia >
      The first three boxers he trained, Lupe Aquino, Terry Norris, and Orlin Norris, all became world champions. He went on to train other world champions during the 1990s, including Miguel Ángel González, Paul Vaden, Frans Botha, and Nana Konadu

      Golovkin was his last hurrah - not his first rodeo​


      none of those guys made over 10 mil in a single fight with Sanchez. That's what a star does.


      They sign 100 mil deals like GGG does.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by HeadShots View Post



        So Sturm avoiding GGG at all cost despite GGG being mandatory and being under same promotion is a lie?

        Eubank Jr losing his pen is a lie?

        Canelo wanting their fight at 155lbs before GGG turned 35 is a lie?
        Many boxers avoid a dangerous matchup until they see weakness or exposure. Late-career Canelo is a master at this - Golovkin (Brook) - Bivol (Richards) backfired - Kovalev (Ward, Yarde, Eleider alvarez).

        Very few run to the fire without a huge pay-check and those who do are what make boxing especially fun. Yarde > kovalev and Beterbiev and now maybe Bivol. Shaun Porter - literally fought everyone at 147 - Bud is right about his resume. Porter should make it into the HOF eventually. Sor Rungvisai who fought these 3 fights in a row - Chocolatito 1, Chocolatito 2, Juan Estrada - I haven't seen a run like that for decades.
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        • #44
          Originally posted by SteveM View Post

          Many boxers avoid a dangerous matchup until they see weakness or exposure. Late-career Canelo is a master at this - Golovkin (Brook) - Bivol (Richards) backfired - Kovalev (Ward, Yarde, Eleider alvarez).

          Very few run to the fire without a huge pay-check and those who do are what make boxing especially fun. Yarde > kovalev and Beterbiev and now maybe Bivol. Shaun Porter - literally fought everyone at 147 - Bud is right about his resume. Porter should make it into the HOF eventually. Sor Rungvisai who fought these 3 fights in a row - Chocolatito 1, Chocolatito 2, Juan Estrada - I haven't seen a run like that for decades.


          yup. the point is GGG's prime was a very real thing. Fighters were getting panic attacks signing the agreement. Eubank Jr.

          Sergio Martinez's promoter Lou Dibella straight up said, "Not fighting that animal."
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          • #45
            Originally posted by Silence View Post

            He lost to Derevyan and got toyed by Nelo after Abel.

            Is this success?
            He aged and his abilities declined. Spoiler alert: this happens to everyone.
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            • #46
              Abel got kicked to the curb, he's been whimpering ever since

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              • #47
                Most fighters go out with a whimper, unless you retire at the very top after one of your biggest fights or best wins.

                Look at Floyd, went out at the top so to speak but on a glorified sparring session with BERTO. Hardly the great send off. Unless you count the McGregor thing.

                Manny, On a loss to Ugas

                Canelo will probably go out no longer on top, if he even still is. Already ran a mile from fighting Bivol again and people think he's on the slide.

                Lewis, went out after caving Vitali's face in but it wasnt exactly spectacular, it was the performance and many people feel he needed to give him a rematch.

                The list goes on and on and on. It's the nature the sport, the vast majority of great fighters go out like that. There's not really many Hollywood endings where fighters end it at their biggest and most glorious endings.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by unknowledgeablepugilist View Post

                  Is that a hyperbole when you say Golovkin is one of the worst middle-weight champion's in history or is it supposed to be taken literally.
                  Based on his lack of accomplishments and resume devoid of any world class
                  wins.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post

                    All the pics you posted were of men that took risks, GGG not so much. Now if GGG went up to 168 to challenge Benavidez, hed probably leave like the guys in your post but will garner respect.
                    If he would have done it any time in his career. I don’t expect him to fight benevidez now. But there’s no excuse why he ducked ward Lara charlo kovalev for years sitting around begging Floyd and canelo to fight him. Literally one of the most pathetic careers of any fighter that could have been an ATG

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                    • #50
                      I'd say Golovkin has had an excellent career, and will probably still have another fight or two more.

                      Many millions in the bank, many defences as middleweight champion, sounds good.

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