Why didn't Usyk agree to the no rematch clause terms?

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  • Smash
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    #31
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

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    I can't see how that's Fury's fault? No rematch clause is surely the solution to the issue here?
    The real solution to this is for fury and frank warren to get back to the saudis and strike a deal i would say, the saudis pay the best and wont be around forever (hopefully not anyway), fury said he wanted 500 mil for usky in the media, he needs to get realistic and make a deal with the saudis and do it quick i would say, but fury has options while im sure usky would love a saudi deal

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      #32
      Originally posted by Superbee

      The deal breaker was Jelly Belly absolutely not wanting Usyk to get 70 in the rematch assuming Usyk wins the 1st one ( and only gets 30) ...
      Well firstly, 70-30 for a rematch in Usyk's favour isn't reasonable. 50-50 would be fair, which is what he accepted for AJ.

      But it's neither here nor there because Fury offered to scrap it, so that literally was the deal breaker because that's when they walked away.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Smash

        The real solution to this is for fury and frank warren to get back to the saudis and strike a deal i would say, the saudis pay the best and wont be around forever (hopefully not anyway), fury said he wanted 500 mil for usky in the media, he needs to get realistic and make a deal with the saudis and do it quick i would say, but fury has options while im sure usky would love a saudi deal
        Right but doesn't that show that neither wanted it for the UK in the summer?

        Hence all the nonsense in the media.

        Seems that way to me.

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          #34
          Fury negotiated his way out of a potentially dangerous fight to his legacy.

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            #35
            Originally posted by 786
            I’ve asked this same question before, they agree to everything, even 70-30 but scrapping the rematch clause was the dealbreaker?!
            I think it's telling how it's been span to be honest and everyone seems to have run with it.

            Usyk has an issue with the rematch clause terms, Fury then offers a solution in getting rid of it, to which Usyk walks away and this is somehow Fury's fault?

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              #36
              Originally posted by Indict45
              Fury negotiated his way out of a potentially dangerous fight to his legacy.
              How do you come to that conclusion when it was Usyk who walked away from the table when removing the rematch clause was offered?

              I can't understand how Fury can be at fault for that.

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                #37
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                Well firstly, 70-30 for a rematch in Usyk's favour isn't reasonable. 50-50 would be fair, which is what he accepted for AJ.

                But it's neither here nor there because Fury offered to scrap it, so that literally was the deal breaker because that's when they walked away.

                So... Usyk offering Fluffy Belly 70% for the 1st Fight (so that they can make the damn fight) and asking kindly for the winner to get 70% for the 2nd Fight seems unreasonable for you ? ... OK ...

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Superbee


                  So... Usyk offering Fluffy Belly 70% for the 1st Fight (so that they can make the damn fight) and asking kindly for the winner to get 70% for the 2nd Fight seems unreasonable for you ? ... OK ...
                  Obviously. You aren't suggesting 70-30 is reasonable for Usyk against Fury?

                  He took 80-20 against AJ and 50-50 for the rematch clause.

                  Was that reasonable? If not, why did he accept it?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                    Right but doesn't that show that neither wanted it for the UK in the summer?

                    Hence all the nonsense in the media.

                    Seems that way to me.
                    Saudi fell through for whatever reason looks like fury mucked up, uk fell through, usyk walked away not happy

                    the best place for this fight is saudi im sure for the cash that is & both of these guys know it, seems to me usyk is right there waiting for a good deal and fight, fury is off making great cash for easy fights, its classic A & B side stuff here quite possibly, usyk has to wait on fury, who is not a good guy to be waiting on

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                      Obviously. You aren't suggesting 70-30 is reasonable for Usyk against Fury?

                      He took 80-20 against AJ and 50-50 for the rematch clause.

                      Was that reasonable? If not, why did he accept it?

                      So you're saying that even if Usyk beats Fury (and becomes undisputed in the process) that same Usyk who's now at the top of the world can't ask for the bigger slice of the pie ? Seriously ?

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