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  • #11
    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

    I actually don't think he lacks heart. He was arrogant and thought he had better skills than he did and relies way too much on his hook, just like Wilder relies on his right. They'd both be way more dangerous if they had power in both hands. He wasn't listening to his coaches. Wanted to correct Sugar Ray Leonard when the ATG was trying to give him a tip. If he's gotten some of the arrogance beaten out of him and is ready to get back to learning, he may still be able to make something of himself.

    All the people saying he quit should put up or shut up. Go on his YT channel and take just ONE body shot from him. Then you can tell him to his face how he quit. He doesn't even hit like Tank. Easy, right?
    Well said! Tank the KO artist was well aware of Ryan's rib injury and body drain. A life changing beating was next..

    The heavy weight Daniel Dubois had an eye socket injury and took a knee against Joe Joyce, Daniel lost
    his undefeated record, was criticized as heartless, and written off as a worthy fighter. ​Daniel in my opinion
    wisely gave himself another fighting chance. .

    Daniel will be shortly fighting world champion Oleksandr Usyk for all the marbles. Win or lose this opportunity
    became possible by taking a knee and preventing permanent eye damage. I'm hoping for an upset!
    . . .

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    • #12
      Originally posted by boxingitis View Post
      Derick James is for a rude awakening. Spence will lose to Crawford, Jermall to Canelo, Ryan will never be top of any divison. Joshua gets schooled by Fury and Usyk.

      I saw the mitts with Ryan, they were horrendous. Slow as hell, uncordinated, still horrible stance. He will make Ryan as slow as Spence.
      James will be fine, he has an all star starting 5. Joshua in the middle, charlo at the power forward, Spence at the small. Ryan shooting guard and Martin running point. They're a little short but blah.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by chepboxingking View Post

        Tell me you don’t know shiet about boxing without telling me you don’t know shiet about boxing….
        I know way more than you. I was actually a boxing coach. Not a keyboard warrior like yourself.

        Correct your username to shietboxingking
        Last edited by boxingitis; 07-14-2023, 11:02 PM.
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        • #14
          Originally posted by boxingitis View Post
          Derick James is for a rude awakening. Spence will lose to Crawford, Jermall to Canelo, Ryan will never be top of any divison. Joshua gets schooled by Fury and Usyk.

          I saw the mitts with Ryan, they were horrendous. Slow as hell, uncordinated, still horrible stance. He will make Ryan as slow as Spence.
          Can you let me know the next lottery numbers as well, please?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Lefty0616 View Post
            A lot of trainers take their boxer's money - knowing it's not earned. Breland took Wilder's money.

            I think Garcia is in good hands now. He still has untapped potential. He beats Pograis, btw.
            Not a chance in hell Ryan Garcia beats Prograis. Not happening………….
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            • #16
              Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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              That’s why he is retiring in the next two years. In fact, the only person that will still keep him in the game is Spence.
              Spence-Bud is a 50/50 fight so win or lose, there is a rematch and a chance that Spence will move to 154 even if he loses to Bud. I think Bud will retire if he gets beat.
              AJ will most likely beat Whyte and fights with Wilder and Fury are huge money makers. Derrick James will make upwards of $20 million with the next 4 fights.
              Bud is not losing to Urkel, trust me. The only people calling this a 50/50 fight are the people who are lying to themselves. AJ likely gets starched by Wilder in December. Where does Jermell go if he loses to Canelo, which I think he will by close decision? He's not going all the way back down to 154. I see him settling in at 160 and maybe facing Adames or the Kazakh fighter who runs his mouth a lot.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by just the facts View Post

                Not a chance in hell Ryan Garcia beats Prograis. Not happening………….
                Pograis is overrated.
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                • #18
                  I have serious doubts if Garcia can be corrected at this stage of his career.
                  He is an active fighter, not someone you can keep in the gym for the next 2 years and drill the fundamentals.
                  He's lacking the things he should have been taught from day one in a boxing gym.

                  For instance, his straight isn't technically very good and you can tell he's not that comfortable throwing it.
                  Beside his footwork and standing up straight with no head movement, a big problem with him is that he doesn't know how to transfer his weight correctly.
                  I.e. when throwing the right you should shift the weight from the backfoot to the frontfoot. Garcia stands on his frontfoot and then throws his right. And he also doesn't pivot the backfoot correctly, it's either not pivoted at all, in the air or on the tip of his toes.
                  All of these should be automatic by now, you can't start thinking about this things consciously in fights.
                  So if Garcia shows little improvement in his next fights, I don't think you can blame Derrick James. Too much to (un)learn for an active fighter.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by BlackRobb View Post

                    Bud is not losing to Urkel, trust me. The only people calling this a 50/50 fight are the people who are lying to themselves. AJ likely gets starched by Wilder in December. Where does Jermell go if he loses to Canelo, which I think he will by close decision? He's not going all the way back down to 154. I see him settling in at 160 and maybe facing Adames or the Kazakh fighter who runs his mouth a lot.
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                    I agree with everything you wrote 100% except, Bud beating Spence is not guaranteed. But we’re two weeks away from the fight so need to debate that.
                    Assuming Bud wins, and stays at 147, how do you see him vs Boots?

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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                      I agree with everything you wrote 100% except, Bud beating Spence is not guaranteed. But we’re two weeks away from the fight so need to debate that.
                      Assuming Bud wins, and stays at 147, how do you see him vs Boots?
                      I see Bud handling Boots, but it won't be easy because unlike Spence, Ennis has the ability to box long and tall, so Crawford will definitely have his work cut out for him the first 6-7 rounds.

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