Comments Thread For: Jared Anderson vs. Andriy Rudenko Official For August 26 in Tulsa

[shawnkemp804]

I said Coffie/Rice because they are American, not because I think they're special or vastly superior to Rudenko. Coffie was fresh in my head because I remember thinking his fight vs. Wardley was stopped a bit prematurely. I just think that Anderson running through the American HWs could serve as more effective marketing for the U.S. consumer base. He already beat Martin and Forrest, so that seems to be the strategy that TR was exploring. Maybe Anderson is getting avoided by the other American HWs, it could be possible. If Anderson knocks Rudenko out, he can claim to do something Povetkin/Zhang/Kabayel didn't...which is good marketing too. However, if Rudenko gets stopped early, then what does Anderson really learn? If Rudenko gives him a hard time or it looks like Anderson is holding back because he's using it as a "learning fight", then Anderson's stock could decrease. It seems like a lose-lose. I appreciate that you gave historical context by mentioning Wlad and Foreman, but I think it's safe to say that the business of boxing may have changed a bit from the 60s/70s and 90s. If TR/ESPN is giving out money for what could potentially amount to a blow-out or sparring session, then I guess Anderson would be crazy not to take it.

Again you have no clue to what you are talking about. Anderson could get in the ring with Anthony Joshua for example and stop him and one round. Does that mean he shouldn't of fought Joshua? If Rudenko is stopped in 1 round then he gets stopped in 1 round. Who cares, Anderson is still being active. Being active doesn't mean you have to go the distance with the people you are fight. Being active means being active regardless of who you are fighting. It is better to fight a tomato can than to go 1 year and a half not fighting anybody like you frequently see guys do today.

You want more facts since you clearly don't know a thing about boxing? Tyson Fury fought the undefeated Derek Chisora early on in his career then 2 months later he fought Nicholai Firtha, Did you think anybody complained because Fury when from fighting a undefeated fight to something like Firtha? Do you think his "stock" went down? After that Fury fought Neven Pajkic, Martin Rogan, and Vinny Madalone before he fought a known person again in Kevin Johnson. Hell Wladimir Klistchko even when he was champion would face touch up fights. Wlad fought a washed up Hasim Rahman, Ray Austin, Alex Leapai ect.. A prime Larry Holmes went from fighting the 23-4 Roy "Tiger" Williams to fighting 5-1 Horace Robinson. Do you think anybody cared because he was a young fighter keeping busy.? Do you think his stock dropped? Latter on Holmes when from fighting the 40-4 Ken Norton to fighting the 19-8 Mike Weaver. A young George Foreman knocked out the top 10 Boone Kirkman who was 22-1 and 1 month later Foreman fought the 8-10 Mel Turnbow. Did Foreman's stock dropped because he was really active early in his career?

This is boxing kid. All fighters who want to be active early in their careers do this. You also want something little kid who should stick to watching cartoons? Anthony Joshua you know the guy who was heavyweight champion recently even talked about how current fighters don't get in the ring often and how that is a bad thing not a good thing.

[kiaba360]

Well, that’s the point of fighting again only a month after. You should already be close to the weight and don’t have time to ballon too much.

As to your comment about Anderson’s learning fights coming to an end…the Charles Martin fight proves that this should definitely NOT be the case.

If a boxer is barely rehydrating to make weight. But most are hydrating 10lbs+. To lose weight for a weigh-in, then rehydrate, then have a 10 rounder...then do it all again a month later? Anderson doesn't need to worry about the weight-cutting and rehydration processes.

I think the Martin fight proves that he can handle himself. He got hit, but there was no doubt as to who was victorious. I know his nickname is "Big Baby", but he doesn't need the training wheels. Boxing doesn't need more fighters who are in protection programs.

[kiaba360]

Lol who cares? If you want to stay busy as a boxer then stay busy. You don't wait around for months or years hoping for a big or bigger fight to come. You go out and stay busy especially earlier on in your career. Wladimir Klitschko had 16 fights in his first year of boxing. George Foreman had 34 bouts in his first 32 months of boxing. You stay busy and you try to learn by getting in the ring especially if you don't have much experience as a amateur.

Lol also The fact you stated Michael Coffie is a better opponent than Rudenko pretty much tells me all I know to know about your boxing knowledge. Coffie lost 4 of his last 5 bouts while being stopped 4 times. Rudenko was only stopped 1 time in his career and went the distance with Zhang. Johnnie Rice did what with his career? Beat the no talent hype job Coffie and got lucky against Vianello?

You have no clue to what you are talking about little kid. Through boxing history top level fights have taken easy fights to keep busy even after they became champion. Anderson isn't a top fight. He is a 23 year old prospect. This is why people like you shouldn't be allowed to post on boxing forums. You watch a Logan Paul boxing match and think you are experts now.

I said Coffie/Rice because they are American, not because I think they're special or vastly superior to Rudenko. Coffie was fresh in my head because I remember thinking his fight vs. Wardley was stopped a bit prematurely. I just think that Anderson running through the American HWs could serve as more effective marketing for the U.S. consumer base. He already beat Martin and Forrest, so that seems to be the strategy that TR was exploring. Maybe Anderson is getting avoided by the other American HWs, it could be possible. If Anderson knocks Rudenko out, he can claim to do something Povetkin/Zhang/Kabayel didn't...which is good marketing too. However, if Rudenko gets stopped early, then what does Anderson really learn? If Rudenko gives him a hard time or it looks like Anderson is holding back because he's using it as a "learning fight", then Anderson's stock could decrease. It seems like a lose-lose. I appreciate that you gave historical context by mentioning Wlad and Foreman, but I think it's safe to say that the business of boxing may have changed a bit from the 60s/70s and 90s. If TR/ESPN is giving out money for what could potentially amount to a blow-out or sparring session, then I guess Anderson would be crazy not to take it.

[Zelda]

Thats a bit odd...one would have thought he would choose a similar or higher opposition and build himself up.

[ShoulderRoll]

The only reason Anderson can have 2 fights in consecutive months is due to HWs not having to cut weight. I don't think it's possible for top boxers in other weight classes to do this.

Well, that’s the point of fighting again only a month after. You should already be close to the weight and don’t have time to ballon too much.

As to your comment about Anderson’s learning fights coming to an end…the Charles Martin fight proves that this should definitely NOT be the case.

[shawnkemp804]

Anderson is not a low-tier boxer with no promoter. He has a machine behind him, and he just fought his best opponent. I understand fighting a lesser opponent after a semi-tough outing against Martin, but he could afford to wait for a more meaningful opponent. Nobody would give Anderson grief if he returned in fought in September/October against a Johnnie Rice or Michael Coffie. Anderson is top 25, so the days of "learning" fights should be coming to an end. Get Rudenko as a sparring partner if the objective is to learn. Anderson sees it as easy money, but things have a way of backfiring when you least expect them to.

Lol who cares? If you want to stay busy as a boxer then stay busy. You don't wait around for months or years hoping for a big or bigger fight to come. You go out and stay busy especially earlier on in your career. Wladimir Klitschko had 16 fights in his first year of boxing. George Foreman had 34 bouts in his first 32 months of boxing. You stay busy and you try to learn by getting in the ring especially if you don't have much experience as a amateur.

Lol also The fact you stated Michael Coffie is a better opponent than Rudenko pretty much tells me all I know to know about your boxing knowledge. Coffie lost 4 of his last 5 bouts while being stopped 4 times. Rudenko was only stopped 1 time in his career and went the distance with Zhang. Johnnie Rice did what with his career? Beat the no talent hype job Coffie and got lucky against Vianello?

You have no clue to what you are talking about little kid. Through boxing history top level fights have taken easy fights to keep busy even after they became champion. Anderson isn't a top fight. He is a 23 year old prospect. This is why people like you shouldn't be allowed to post on boxing forums. You watch a Logan Paul boxing match and think you are experts now.

[kiaba360]

You do realize this is what fighters who are trying to learn and stay active do right? You might fight a decent fighter today and then a month later fight a lesser fighter. You might a few lesser fighters until you get a bigger fight. Why just sit at home waiting and praying to get a bigger fight?

Anderson is not a low-tier boxer with no promoter. He has a machine behind him, and he just fought his best opponent. I understand fighting a lesser opponent after a semi-tough outing against Martin, but he could afford to wait for a more meaningful opponent. Nobody would give Anderson grief if he returned in fought in September/October against a Johnnie Rice or Michael Coffie. Anderson is top 25, so the days of "learning" fights should be coming to an end. Get Rudenko as a sparring partner if the objective is to learn. Anderson sees it as easy money, but things have a way of backfiring when you least expect them to.

[low blows]

Who is Fetisov? This is the only boxer that comes up: https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/799170

You know I need to learn my Russian names it's Andrey Fedosov and he isn't as "young" as I thought as he is 37 at some point this year but who knows where he is in his career as he hasn't had a fight in two years.

[shawnkemp804]

I love fighters being active, but what is the purpose of this match-up? Anderson just went 10 rounds this month, and he's gonna face a journeyman a month later?

You do realize this is what fighters who are trying to learn and stay active do right? You might fight a decent fighter today and then a month later fight a lesser fighter. You might a few lesser fighters until you get a bigger fight. Why just sit at home waiting and praying to get a bigger fight?

[kiaba360]

He should be fighting Fetisov who isn't dangerous but isn't a total opponent type and is also younger than Rudenko.

Who is Fetisov? This is the only boxer that comes up: https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/799170