Comments Thread For: Usyk Promoter Criticizes Fury: He's Disrespectful To His Fans; What They Want In Return Is the Big Fight

[Bronx2245]

You're way off base here.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxin...oxing-29046693

https://boxing-social.com/news/usyks...ff-fury-fight/

https://boxing-social.com/news/usyk-...fury-collapse/

"He wanted to take all the money in the rematch as well..." Usyk pulled out due to money! Tyson Fury is fighting Ngannou for the money! Money Talks! Now Usyk says he doesn't care about the belts, he wants to fight Fury! Why do you think that is? Because Fury = Money!

[daggum]

fury just gave his fans the third chisora fight they all wanted

[letsgochump]

Tipsy Fans want whatever Luke gives them. Braun Strowman, Francis Ngannou, Logan Paul, Chisora IV, Chisora V, Chisora VI, Chisora VII, Chisora VIII, Chisora IX they will pay and convince each other why Fury doing all this crapp is awesome and how its everyone else’s fault that he’s only fighting no hopers. And money tho.

[Zelda]

"Tyson Fury needs to be mindful of where his fortune comes from, says the promoter of unified heavyweight champion Oleksandr Usyk."....I think Fury is mindful of the Saudis.

Usyk knows Fury is the big payday that is why they keep talking about him. However, Alex should also know that they are going to be the B-side in that match and accept the offer to fight at Webley instead of adding demands like Fury needs to give money to Ukraine. Or have the Saudis send an actual offer and see if Fury will accept or not. Currently, opponents of Fury are making more money being the B-side in fights apparently no one wants to see according to fans at BoxingScene, than Usyk will make defending his multiple titles in front of his countrymen in an event organized by them. So, the 70-30 doesn't look that unreasonable an offer and team Usyk should accept it.

[Mike_b]

In Tyson's new show; is he gonna teach us how to duck everyone and also how to sniff coke?

[Mtodduk08]

This is just another embarrassment to the sport. The day that people starting buying PPV's to watch Jake Paul and others that have zero boxing skills started something that may never stop. I hate to think that Boxing has gone from Tyson - Holyfield to this BS. At least fight a top 10 guy. You have Crawford -Spence and then you Have Fury and hell I don't even know his name.. Cmon man..

[Mtodduk08]

At least we are going to get to see maybe the best fight we've seen in a really long time with Spence - Crawford.. And then when Spence wins maybe get to see him and Ennis. That's Boxing...

[Zelda]

In the midst of all the Whyte drug failure and AJ vs Helenius, Chisora mentioned in the interview with Radio Rahim that they (Skills Challenge) never gave an offer to Tyson Fury to fight Usyk. And now that Fury has signed to fight Ngannou with a rival promoter, this fight is unlikely to happen (at least in Saudi).

Looking at all the interviews and statements made so far, here's my realistic analysis of what has happened. The dates I am listing are approximate, not exact.

1. Back in Fall 2022, there was a will and desire from the Saudis to stage the undisputed fight in Saudi. This is even prior to Amer Abdullah joining. An initial idea was floated and all parties were contacted either directly and/or through Eddie to get their views and expectations. That is when the figures from Fury's team were unrealistic and high. However, Usyk said he wasn't ready for Dec. and the expected dates were pushed to Feb. Fury fought Chisora in Dec after the deal with AJ wasn't made. The Saudi dates were later postponed as there was Ramadan coming up and the weather gets too hot afterward. Warren said in the SportsTalk interview that they had agreed to the fight but I think he is just playing with words here. They had agreed to fight Usyk but not on the terms of the fight. In my view, NO formal negotiations happened to finalize the deal. I am talking about a final negotiation like the one that took place this summer with representatives of Wilder and AJ meeting the Skills Challenge team separately in London to agree on everything short of signing contracts.

2. As Feb. passed, Fury wanted to fight in Apr and reserved a date and venue. That is when Warren made an offer to Usyk's team to fight at Wembley and forget the Saudi deal. After much to-and-fro and name-callings, the offer was 70-30 in favor of Fury with 50-50 in the rematch if Usyk wins. Usyk accepted the offer initially and a contract was meant to be sent. During this time, Skills Challenge negotiated with team Usyk and asked them to sign with them for a multi-fight deal. A fight with Saudi involvement would earn Usyk a lot more than a fight at Wembley. The contract sent by Fury hit a roadblock as Usyk wanted to negotiate the rematch to 70-30 if he wins and have Fury commit $1m to Ukraine. Fury disagreed and said the same was the case when Usyk fought AJ and offered to get rid of the rematch clause altogether. Usyk's team, meanwhile, developed an understanding with the Saudis and walked away from the Fury@Wembley deal. I personally feel it was a half-hearted effort from both sides as neither was particularly excited to have it at Wembley at a lower price.

3. Usyk's manager said that Fury would soon receive a take-it-or-leave-it offer from the Saudis...a claim which was mentioned even before and repeated by Amer Abdullah. There was too much 'he said and she said' with each side blaming the other, and team Fury taking the bulk of the blame. However, for some reason, that take-it-or-leave-it offer wasn't made...or at least early enough. Anyone who's worked in the ME would know that you need time and patience to do business here.
However, Warren+Fury were getting impatient since Fury had not fought for a long time and there weren't decisive words from Skills Challenge. They separately negotiated with a rival promoter and got Ngannou fight signed for big money. And either they knew that Fury was going to a rival or after he agreed with them, the offer never came from them and the fight is off the table or at least on the back burner for the foreseeable future.


I wonder why Fury never got that "take-it-or-leave-it" offer from the Saudis? Was it because AJ-WIlder was the key event and enough on its own? or that they wanted Fury to fight for a low pay so that by the time they made the offer, it looks even more attractive? or simply some internal thinking that they didn't need two expensive fights in the same sports in the same year?

Back in April, Fury looked to be the one in command who had options why Usyk would have to fight mandatories. I think after all the fallback of the Ngannou fight, Fury would need to have a decent opponent to generate money in his next fight in Feb/Mar. His options would be the winner of Joyce/Zhang or a mandatory if one is decided. AJ/Wilder would have just fought (if that happens) and Usyk-Fury looks more distant now than ever before unless the Saudis do make an offer after Aug. or else Usyk would move to the next mandatory. A Ruiz fight, if he doesn't price himself out, would make sense if it happens in the US but Fury is unlikely to fight there.