How do you Rate the Jr Welterweights

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  • jack_the_rippuh
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    #21
    I'll make a list of 5. Keep in mind I still think Tszyu is the man to beat, but this list is in terms of skill/talent

    1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    2. Kostya Tszyu
    3. Miguel Cotto
    4. Junior Witter
    5. Arturo Gatti
    Last edited by jack_the_rippuh; 03-16-2005, 04:50 PM.

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    • davico
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      #22
      Originally posted by McKay
      Well it seems to be the UD here that Mayweather and Tzyu are the top II Jr. Welterweights. They are both most likely to win their upcoming bouts. I think its clear that the fight to see is between Tzyu and Mayweather. I would go with Mayweather in that fight. He has youth, handspeed, strongess, on his side.
      Strongness?? I hope that your not trying to say that Mayweather has a strength advantage over KT???

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      • The Troll
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        #23
        Floyd Mayweather is overall stronger than Kostya. Do not mix up the concept of how damaging a fighters punches are and strongess. Kostya's punches are more damaging than Floyd's, this is true. However Floyd indeed does have overall better strongess.

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          #24
          You dont have to be extremely strong to have devastating punching ability. For an example look at Thomas Hearns and other fighters. The effectiveness of punches has more to do with technique, accuracy, and timing, than overall body strongness.

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          • The Troll
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            #25
            And Davico, Take a ******** chill pill.
            Last edited by The Troll; 03-16-2005, 05:41 PM.

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            • BrooklynBomber
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              #26
              There is no way in hell PBF is stronger than Tszyu. His power is so-so, actual physical strength even worse. His only advantage over Tszyu is his speed and footwork(aka his bike) but Kostya already proved that speed does not mean much against him because of his superior timing and accuracy.
              So my list is:
              1.Kostya Tszyu
              2.PBF
              3.Gatti
              4.Harris
              5.Cotto
              6.Hatton
              7.Witter
              8.Corley
              9.Urkal
              10.Mitchell

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              • Super_Lightweight
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                #27
                lol

                I think it's funny that one can give credit to Judah for beating Ward and say in the same breath that Gatti's wins over Ward mean nothing. I also find it very interesting that some of the same people who call Gatti a "bum" (lowest class you can possibly be) also rank him in the top 5-10 at 140 lbs. I'm not even a Gatti fan, but haters annoy me and they had to expose themselves.

                Exposed.

                Here's my top 10.

                1) Kostya Tyszu
                1a) Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                3) Ricky Hatton
                4) Vivian Harris
                5) Junior Witter
                6) Arturo Gatti
                7) Miguel Cotto
                8) Demarcus Corley
                9) Oktay Urkal
                10) Leonard Dorin

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                • Gsand
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                  #28
                  Based on fights to date as opposed to talent or future promise or any other crap:

                  1.Tsyzu
                  2.PBF
                  3.Cotto
                  4.Hatton
                  5.Witter
                  6.Gatti
                  7.Harris
                  8.Corley
                  9.Mitchell
                  10.Urkal

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                  • davico
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by McKay
                    Floyd Mayweather is overall stronger than Kostya. Do not mix up the concept of how damaging a fighters punches are and strongess. Kostya's punches are more damaging than Floyd's, this is true. However Floyd indeed does have overall better strongess.
                    There is no way on earth that PBF is stronger in any way than KT. Not mentallly, not physically. KT Physically man handles most guys he gets in the ring with, and I don't mean punching power hear. (Ask Sharmba about the first fight). Mentally it's not even close as KT is way more focused and everyone knows it. Plese tell me what your definition of strongness so you have some sort of credibility on this!

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                    • dando
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                      #30
                      The big thing all of you guys are missing is Cotto isn't top 5. That guy is one dimensional and as soon as he fights anybody better than Chop Chop its going to show. Any of you see that Cotto vs Corely fight. Not impressive at all. The only reason that guy does as well as he does is because he can drop a ****load of weight to fight guys who are a lot smaller than he is. If Cotto fought anybody with real power it would be his retirement fight.

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