If Pacquiao has gotten better then what has Mayweather done?

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  • Jiddu Dali
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    #21
    Originally posted by civicvx
    One thing we all can agree on is that Mayweather has improved in the duck compartment. He will not get in the ring with Margarito, Mosley, or Cotto.


    WHo is Margarito? Who has he beat? His BEST win is disputed due to his cheating

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    • Jiddu Dali
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      #22
      Originally posted by baracuda
      balls complete a great fighter.....floyd lacks that.....
      Um how does a pro fighter not have balls?..lol

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      • Jiddu Dali
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        #23
        Originally posted by ummid
        he's gotten a bit better at paying taxes at least.

        :wank:

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        • ummid
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          #24
          Originally posted by Jiddu Dali
          Um how does a pro fighter not have balls?..lol
          you wouldn't know for sure...
          Last edited by ummid; 10-02-2009, 12:54 AM.

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          • lee majors
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            #25
            I don't know if he's gotten better, however, reincorporating the jab into his arsenal will make he even more difficult to defeat and could extend his career further. I think Floyd knows that he is a tad bit slower as far a hand speed so he has worked on his timing moreso than he did before. Those pull counters that he use on Jmm had just a much to do with timing than speed. I also think his blocking has gotten better as well. When Floyd did that 360, blocking all of JMM punches or the time throw that 8 punch combo and PBF block them easily and then casually walked back to the center of the ring, amazing. PBF is basically retooling and adjusting his skillset in order to compensate for whatever diminished physical ability that comes along with being 32 going on 33. However, when you take into account that he's still faster than Sweet pea was, it's frightening to think what he's capable of in the ring. It will be fun watching his next 3/4 fights.

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            • lparm
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              #26
              Originally posted by Jiddu Dali
              I hear alot of talk that Pacquiao has gotten better under Freddie Roach. Well if Pac has gotten better than what has Mayweather done in the past few years? Regress? If Freddie Roach has made Pac a more complete fighter and is making him a complete fighter then has Mayweather not also made his already excellent skills that much better? I dont see Pac as a complete fighter at all, an effective, skilled one yes but not complete at all. So my Question is...if Mayweather has always been better than Pac but just the past 5 years Pac has been getting better, how far has Mayweather taken his skills up?

              This is not a Pac HATE thread, I do think pac has become a better fighter, BUT I never hear...."Mayweather has gotten better that last 5 years, yeah he has really improved"




              Floyd has always been a good defensive fighter and IMO his offensive improvement peaked at jww. Since then he's used his defense to win fights. Watch any of his fights and you'll see he throw in the high 20s - low 30s punches a round on average and simply counters and flurries enough to win most rounds. Manny had steadily gotten better every year starting with the Ledwaba win.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Jiddu Dali
                I hear alot of talk that Pacquiao has gotten better under Freddie Roach. Well if Pac has gotten better than what has Mayweather done in the past few years? Regress? If Freddie Roach has made Pac a more complete fighter and is making him a complete fighter then has Mayweather not also made his already excellent skills that much better? I dont see Pac as a complete fighter at all, an effective, skilled one yes but not complete at all. So my Question is...if Mayweather has always been better than Pac but just the past 5 years Pac has been getting better, how far has Mayweather taken his skills up?

                This is not a Pac HATE thread, I do think pac has become a better fighter, BUT I never hear...."Mayweather has gotten better that last 5 years, yeah he has really improved"




                Mayweather hasnt gotten better..he hasnt trained in 5 years

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                • Crazylegs77
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Jiddu Dali
                  I hear alot of talk that Pacquiao has gotten better under Freddie Roach. Well if Pac has gotten better than what has Mayweather done in the past few years? Regress? If Freddie Roach has made Pac a more complete fighter and is making him a complete fighter then has Mayweather not also made his already excellent skills that much better? I dont see Pac as a complete fighter at all, an effective, skilled one yes but not complete at all. So my Question is...if Mayweather has always been better than Pac but just the past 5 years Pac has been getting better, how far has Mayweather taken his skills up?

                  This is not a Pac HATE thread, I do think pac has become a better fighter, BUT I never hear...."Mayweather has gotten better that last 5 years, yeah he has really improved"




                  Maybe if he fought better opposition he would have improved more but he was jst on a layoff and then fought Marquez in a tactical fight so we have no way of knowing if he got better.

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                  • GTR
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by PinoyZoi
                    Mayweather has improved on ducking opponents more by +5.
                    lol practiced it real well

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Easy Work
                      Mayweather hasnt gotten better..he hasnt trained in 5 years
                      is this your final answer?

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