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  • Comments Thread For: Showtime's Espinoza Says Piracy Is Depressing PPV Buys By At Least 30-40%

    Ever since entering the business of boxing in 1986, Showtime has presented pay per view events headlined by the likes of Mike Tyson, Floyd Mayweather Jr., Manny Pacquiao, and many others.
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  • #2
    come up with a different pricing model then!!

    If fights were at > Stan-Ortiz $10 - Ennis-Victim $5 - Errol-Bud $20 - I'd buy them all - as it is I'm not spending $90 to watch something that can be over in 1 minute.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by SteveM View Post
      come up with a different pricing model then!!

      If fights were at > Stan-Ortiz $10 - Ennis-Victim $5 - Errol-Bud $20 - I'd buy them all - as it is I'm not spending $90 to watch something that can be over in 1 minute.
      Pretty much this. I'll throw in that I find most undercards to be awful as well.

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      • #4
        Dont preach to me buddy everybody knows the PPV cards are over priced and many are not worth what a true PPV card once was. Not going to list them all but get real. Listen to the fans for once in your life and maybe do what the fans want then you will be "heard" and maybe generate a loyal fan base. Shoot treat a fight fan like they exist and pretend we matter then you can talk that junk and people might not spit in your direction. Only thing these guys understand is $$$$ signs so you get what you deserve. I would like to show all the PPV's up in the sky for all to see but something less will have to do.........Maybe those guys should do the same thing show the fights for all to see the and make fights that all want to see...................
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        • #5
          Stop charging $80 then

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          • #6
            People stopped to be that reckless to spend their hard earned money on these hyperinflated-greedy PPV prices and cherry-picked matches to make the rich even more richer.

            They've made obscene amounts of money with these clever schemes.

            Last edited by Raimondo; 07-06-2023, 04:10 AM.
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            • #7
              I stopped paying for PPV in 2007. After a main event ended quickly with a head butt technical draw that had a garbage undercard. I swore then that I would never again pay to watch boxing, and I never have.
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              • #8
                Everything has gone up including PPV fights. What do they expect
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                • #9
                  Many people suggest that the reason for piracy is the high price.

                  However, many who stream won't pay even half the price regardless.

                  For them, "too expensive" equals "more than 0 dollars".
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                  • #10
                    Espinoza is absolutely wrong. In the 90s, I along with so many others had an illegal cable box with access to all of the channels - including PPV. It was way more easier to steal/watch events. Yet, there were more PPV buys than there are now.

                    There are several reasons why there are less PPV buys now. The main reason, however, is the prices are now really high, while the undercards are absolute garbage. There used to be a time a PPV would have two or three solid fights ahead of the main event. Therefore, even if the main event disappointed....at least one (or more) of the undercard bouts would be sure to satisfy the consumer. Today's PPV lineups absolutely suck. I'm super excited about Spence VS Crawford......but I have no care in the world about watching any of the undercard matches, because they most likely will not be worth my while.

                    I will watch the fight at my local sports bar as I stopped buying PPV boxing. I got tired of not getting my money's worth.

                    I'm glad I didn't buy Pacquiao VS Mayweather. The undercard was a dud, and the main event was an absolute let down. The consumers are tired of mediocrity.

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