Isn't Winky-BHOP the same as Mayweather-Marquez?

[street bully]

Hopkins moved down almost an entire weight division to 170, two poun d shy of SMW. Mayweather went down 0 pounds. Also bigger guys carry weight mor easily than midgets.

[Al Haymon]

Hoya: a bit smaller, he was better fit at 156 (even though bhop weighed in at 156)
Trinidad: middleweight champion at the time
Pavlik: exact same size as hopkins (practically twins).

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Saying that Trinidad was the middleweight champion is like saying that Hatton was a welterweight champion, so Floyd fought him.

Felix had one fight at 160 prior to Hopkins. Against a middling beltholder. There can be no debate that Hopkins is bigger than Trinidad.

Regarding pavlik:

If Pavlik and Bernard are the same size, then Floyd and Marquez are around the same size. You guys keep moving the criteria around. Is it physical dimensions?... Or is it experience in a weight class?

[MOTHER DUCKER]

Even you admit that B-Hop was green when he fought Roy. You can't blame the man for his opposition during his prime. The same could be said about Larry Holmes, as soon as he fought Tyson, he lost. Holmes wasn't in control of his opposition and neither is B-Hop. People always bring up the Roy fight, that would be like me always mentioning Torrecampo whenever someone says Pac is an ATG

Nope not his fault that MW there wasn't much good opposition he could easily have gone up in weight and faced the likes of Toney tho. He is built up alot round here and im just saying alot of his good wins are vs Naturally smaller guys. So he shouldnt be talking ****

[Pullcounter]

Saying that Trinidad was the middleweight champion is like saying that Hatton was a welterweight champion, so Floyd fought him.

Felix had one fight at 160 prior to Hopkins. Against a middling beltholder. There can be no debate that Hopkins is bigger than Trinidad.

that's funny... cause jmm had 0 fights at WW.... atleast tito had 1 fight, in which he looked spectacular, and joppy was a real MW.

Regarding pavlik:

If Pavlik and Bernard are the same size, then Floyd and Marquez are around the same size. You guys keep moving the criteria around. Is it physical dimensions?... Or is it experience in a weight class?

but hopkins made weight for pavlik... he didn't pull a fast one and not make weight on purpose and trick pavlik into changing the contract.



hopkins is just more cut...



was pavlik wearing shoes?



jmm wearing shoes here while floyd is not



same thing... floyd = no shoes, jmm = shoes.