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  • Originally posted by djtmal View Post

    Floyd fought the best of his era when most of them were at their worst
    No they fought Floyd when a loss wouldnt hurt them financially.

    Floyd became the cash cow the minute he beat ODH. That is why he waited.

    Shane didnt want to risk losing again. He was willing to fight Collazo after Vargas but not Floyd.

    Manny kept refusing to fight. Not until Floyd punked him in Miami and after he got ktfo as the a side for 30% less than what Floyd offered him did he finally agree to fight.
    Last edited by The Big Dunn; 07-12-2023, 06:20 PM.

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    • Originally posted by djtmal View Post

      Floyd was too scared of the welterweight division.

      It is why he ducked out for two years. Only to cherrypick a lightweight

      Don't put your problems on everybody else.
      If Floyd didn't want to fight these guys that's what it was

      Haney is barking up the correct tree. Imagine a Floyd protege keeping it 100
      He was just hurt and took a vacation. Not a big deal.

      He came back and destroyed the dude Manny couldnt beat decisively. That scared Manny off such that he got stitches rather than fight Floyd.

      Floyd fought them when they finally signed. You cant make cowards do what they dont want.

      Of course we saw why they all waited when they fought.

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      • Originally posted by djtmal View Post


        Floyd got a split decision on a faded Oscar.

        Same version that Manny Pacquaio, beat the brakes off a year later.
        Floyd fought 154 lb ODH. Manny fought drained 147lb ODH, a weight he hadn’t fought at in 8 years.

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        • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

          Youre moving the goalposts again.

          If you say odh isnt obligated to fight every one that calls him out, why would floyd be?

          Answer that.
          He wasn't obligated to fight Floyd a nobody lightweight no

          When he was at welterweight he fought top welterweights remember tito campas quartey pernell he didn't cherrypick lightweights like Floyd did. Even Shane had to jump up two weight classes and prove himself. Prime welterweights to boot.

          When Floyd jumped up and proved himself he got the fight I don't why that is so hard for you to comprehend.

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          • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

            Cant you read, Manny ran away instead, same cotto wasn't it lol that was one of the biggest blatant ducks in history , drains Cotto and beats him up, Cotto moves up wins a 154 title Manny comes out and calls him out for that new title, Cotto say YES but no CW and Manny runs away lol.

            Why didn't Manny rematch Horn a guy that beat him Horn was all for it lol just another example of your low IQ.
            Yes, Manny likes a challenge offers rematch. Floyd liked to take money and run and claim he has 1 hometown win so is better, don't want to run risk of losing rematch.
            Pac s knows everyone thought he was robbed against horn so no need for pac to rematch horn. Plus pac knows everyone considers him greater than horn whether he has official loss to horn anyway. There's enough people who thought pac beat floyd and floyd used IV unfairly but floyd didn't want to silence critics..? Why wouldn't floyd want to be the only person to beat Pac twice? 2 wins over pac, floyd would've had a better case for being greater than pac. 1 hometown win, hardly puts forward a strong case for floyd being deserving of being greater than pac. Neither does 2 wins over pac but you get my point.
            Well that's what we expect of floyd
            Last edited by hugh grant; 07-12-2023, 06:32 PM.

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            • Originally posted by EmpiresBoxing View Post

              Again telling the truth is not hating mate just like what haney said to everyone that mayweather messed up the sport. I was laughing every time i see mayweather fans getting mad because someone was telling the truth.
              Agreed.A great boxer who believes in himself wants to fight the best Just like Ali wanting to fight Foreman & everyone thinking he was going to get killed except of Coarse Ali himself & we all know what happened in that fight.Ali was 32 & Big George Foreman was only 25.Leonard taking on Duran & Hearns-Duran 3 times & Hearns 2 times.The list goes on but the 0 means more to Floyd than the challenge.Rocky Marciano was 49 00 42 ko weighed about 187-190 for his fights yet no one ranks him the greatest HW all time & for good reason,there were no great HW in that era for him to fight & beat & most believe had the 5'10 Mariano (shortest reach of any HW Champion) were to have fought in the early-mid 1970's he would have never have won a HW belt because of the big HW of the day the difference is Marciano would have no problem fighting Ali,Foreman,Frazier the only problem is he would have never beat these men.Had Floyd fought a young Mosley he gets Knocked out.Had Floyd fought Pacquaio Pacquaio stops him late or Floyd gets lucky with a counter & Ko pacquaio.Fights Oscar a young Oscar Oscar wins decision.These are guesses of coarse because we will never know because he waited until all their skills were mostly gone.

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              • Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                Stop crying Oscar called him out set the terms, and got the brakes beat off him.

                Hasn't fought since
                Oscar set all the terms for Floyd as well , so we just dismiss 20lbs difference lol same version Floyd beat would kill Manny that's the difference, Manny beat a POW that he outweighed on the night, can you believe that Manny outweighed Oscar, that's the definition of dead man walking, same deal with Cotto drains him and then calls him out for a rematch but wants to drain him again and then runs away when Cotto called his CW BS .

                Manny shouldn't even be in the conversation he sp far below Floyd its not funny, nobody thinks Manny is the greatest of anything lol, maybe match manipulation Manny was greatest at that.


                "I was a drained fighter. It's crazy because I was seeing everything coming, I just couldn't block it. I couldn't do anything. It's like I was weak," admitted Oscar De La Hoya.

                https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news...manny-pacquiao



                Squeezing down in weight for Pacquiao had physically drained De La Hoya of his strength and energy. Even during his ring walk, De La Hoya already felt that his body had nothing left and he was going to take a beating once he stepped in the ring.

                "I'll never forget walking to ring that night," De La Hoya told ESPN. "I knew that I was going to get beat up already. It was like walking into a slaughter house and knowing that this is it. I've never felt that before in my life. Imagine going into the ring, knowing that you're going to get beat. I might as well have run back to the dressing room and taken off, but I've always decided to fight but I was a dead man walking when I stepped into the ring against Pacquiao. I had nothing left."

                https://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-ho...ad-man--110020

                Last edited by Roadblock; 07-12-2023, 08:36 PM.

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                • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                  Floyd fought 154 lb ODH. Manny fought drained 147lb ODH, a weight he hadn’t fought at in 8 years.
                  Oscar also had height and reach on Manny, set the terms, and got the brakes beat off him

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                  • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                    Oscar set all the terms for Floyd as well , so we just dismiss 20lbs difference lol same version Floyd beat would kill Manny that's the difference, Manny beat a POW that he outweighed on the night, can you believe that Manny outweighed Oscar, that's the definition of dead man walking, same deal with Cotto drains him and then calls him out for a rematch but wants to drain him again and then runs away when Cotto called his CW BS .

                    Manny shouldn't even be in the conversation he sp far below Floyd its not funny, nobody thinks Manny is the greatest of anything lol, maybe match manipulation Manny was greatest at that.

                    ;
                    Dude it didn't make a difference what Oscar and Cotto weighed don't you get it. Manny beat the brakes off both those guys. Why you just can't accept it. I know why you can't because Floyd could only pitty pat wait for Oscar and Cotto to get tired, and look to the judges to give him a points win, and Manny just flat out put a stop to Oscar's career, and mangled Cotto

                    Don't worry Manny beat the same faded Oscar Floyd did.

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                    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                      He was just hurt and took a vacation. Not a big deal.

                      ht.
                      He ducked the welterweight division for two years

                      Any more excuses?

                      Last edited by djtmal; 07-12-2023, 10:39 PM.
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