Comments Thread For: Wilder's Trainer Warns That Andy Ruiz Will Be 'Knocked Out Cold'

[Oldskoolg]

The matchup being compelling helps too. That is also a factor.

But I could see Ryan Garcia potentially having got those numbers against several opponents. Tank Davis not so much.

I think you’re buying into the “black fighters don’t sell” bit

[Toffee]

Trying to discount two KOs of a 38 & 39 year old version of Ortiz by a points win over a 43 year old version of him is futile. Wilder KO'd Luis despite not having the same skills as him. Ruiz, who is known to be able to **** and 10 years Ortiz's junior, couldn't stop the old guy.

I'm not discounting anything.

But at the same time I'm certainly not saying that Ruiz has no chance based on the fact that Wilder stopped Ortiz and Ruiz didn't.

It doesn't work like that. If Ortiz could outbox Wilder then Ruiz will too. And I'd expect Andy to apply more pressure to Wilder if he gets a chance. It will come down to whether Wilder finds a knockout punch - as it always does.

Not for one second do I think it will be made, but it's a good fight.

[SUBZER0ED]

I'm not discounting anything.

But at the same time I'm certainly not saying that Ruiz has no chance based on the fact that Wilder stopped Ortiz and Ruiz didn't.

It doesn't work like that. If Ortiz could outbox Wilder then Ruiz will too. And I'd expect Andy to apply more pressure to Wilder if he gets a chance. It will come down to whether Wilder finds a knockout punch - as it always does.

Not for one second do I think it will be made, but it's a good fight.

Neither this debate nor my talking points were about who wins the fight. It's about the purse split, which I said should favor Wilder 60-40, based on the points that I made about both men.

[ShoulderRoll]

I think you’re buying into the “black fighters don’t sell” bit

Naw, I just think they sell better when matched with Mexican-descent fighters.

[SchoolTheseCats]

Fury was the reason for those ticket sales. Wilder has always failed to sell a decent amount of tickets throughout his whole career. In fact, it's been dreadful. He couldn't come close to selling out small arena's most of the time. Haymon had to give a load of tickets away to make it look like something it never was.

What are you talking about record sellouts at Barclays happen way before fury… 3 of records came while fury was on retroactive/retirement suspension

[Sid-Knee]

What are you talking about record sellouts at Barclays happen way before fury… 3 of records came while fury was on retroactive/retirement suspension

Tell me who Wilder fought those 3 times where he supposedly sold out?

[chicken-]

You're ranked higher after only having 1 win over a decades long shot fighter in Helenius since 2019? Really? That's 4 years with nothing but losses since then.

His losses were to the best in the division, and knocked him down 4 times in the process. Wilder sold more PPVs vs the "decades long shot fighter" in Helenius, meanwhile Ruiz was selling less tickets to fight a much more known Ortiz, and struggled. If you sell less tickets, and have proven to the world that you don't train properly, why would you deserve 50/50?

Wilder definitely won't stand there while AJ pitty pats him for 12 rounds straight like that fat marshallow did, you have to damn near kill him to beat him.

[chicken-]

Andy was part of a two fight series with AJ that sold a ton of PPV. Don't forget that. Then you add in the fact that Ruiz fought Ortiz when his stock wasn't anywhere near to what it was when he fought Wilder. This is a 50/50 split kind of fight. Wilder the hypocrite even lambasted Fury the other week about money but here he is doing the opposite of what he preaches.

What is Wilder's level? Getting smashed up by Fury repeatedly and struggling against complete bums? Andy is the only one to have a world class victory between the two of them. Wilder in all this time has nothing because he's a bum who ran from everyone.

Andy struggled vs an even older Ortiz and Areola, get the hell out of here with that nonsense. Fury would demolish Ruiz with ease, and wouldn't get knocked down multiple times in the process like he did vs Wilder.

[chicken-]

One KD in the Ortiz and Arreola fight doesn't mean Andy was struggling. Andy easily outboxed Arreola and battered Ortiz for most of the fight. Wilder was almost knocked out and beaten in both fights against Ortiz.

Besides that Andy beat AJ to get his title while Wilder ducked the Klitschko brothers until they retired to fight some bum for their title.

Since Andy lost to AJ he hasn't lost a fight while Wilder has taken two humiliating one sided beatdowns from Fury and a terrible victory against his sparring partner.

50/50 is fair. 70/30 is a clear duck.

It's funny to me how all the tards keep bringing up Fury beating Wilder to discredit him when none of the other heavyweights other than perhaps Usyk have any chance to beat him. Ruiz is a midget with t-rex arms and Fury would have no issue dismantling him far easier than he did Wilder.

[bullydean]

It's funny to me how all the tards keep bringing up Fury beating Wilder to discredit him when none of the other heavyweights other than perhaps Usyk have any chance to beat him. Ruiz is a midget with t-rex arms and Fury would have no issue dismantling him far easier than he did Wilder.

Cunningham almost beat Fury so I guess Cunningham is on the same level as Wilder? Wallin cut Fury and almost won by stoppage so Wallin would get 50-50 against Wilder, right?

You should learn how to read because I also mentioned Wilder almost got knocked out and defeated twice by 50 year old Ortiz.

Andy beat a prime AJ.
Wilder got steamrolled by Fury twice and got a gift draw against a recovering druggy Fury.

Hop off Wilder's prick.