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  • archiemoore1
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    #21
    Thurman was definitely avoided by Mayweather in their primes. Floyd didn't want that problem for some reason.

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    • meme_man
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      #22
      Originally posted by archiemoore1
      Thurman was definitely avoided by Mayweather in their primes. Floyd didn't want that problem for some reason.
      Lol Floyd prime was 2007 wtf

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      • Gary Coleman
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        #23
        Originally posted by djtmal

        Sounds like excuses that are irrelevant to the discussion

        Thurman beat two top prime guys to unify the belts, then called out Floyd for his, but Floyd felt fighting that shopworn c fighter Andre Berto a bigger challenge
        None of those "top prime guys" are more significant wins than Floyd's welter wins over Mosley or Pacquiao.

        Who are you kidding?

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        • factsarenice
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          #24
          The cult followers don't want to hear it but... Keith is right. When you ask why fighters don't fight, it's because they're ALL working from the Money May Playbook.

          Hand picked opponents, timing a name when they're ripe, hydration clause, ring size, retiring to avoid fights then coming back when the boogieman is gone....To his credit, Floyd's excuses are still being used today. For better or worse, Floyd changed boxing forever.

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          • factsarenice
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            #25
            Originally posted by Gary Coleman

            None of those "top prime guys" are more significant wins than Floyd's welter wins over Mosley or Pacquiao.

            Who are you kidding?
            Like him or not, Thurman worked his way to Floyd's doorstep and Floyd wouldn't open the door. Floyd simply did not want to fight Prime Keith Thurman, that's just a fact.

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            • Monty Fisto
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              #26
              Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
              Let's be real, nobody cares about these belts. Haney, Teo, and Kambosos were all undisputed for gods sake. Now if there was one title and only the best fighter could be champion, then being undisputed would mean something. In this era the belts are just an excuse for sanctioning bodies to get a percentage of your paycheck.
              If you hold all four belts and are undisputed then it is at least the same level of achievement as being champion when there was only one title.

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              • factsarenice
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                #27
                Originally posted by meme_man

                Lol Floyd prime was 2007 wtf
                LOL, lets talk prime...... Floyd's best wins were against PAST their primes Moseley and Oscar avoided PBC hit-man Paul Williams, prime Margarito and anyone in their PRIME that would give Floyd problems. If we are talking prime, that cuts both ways.

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                • factsarenice
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by unknowledgeablepugilist
                  Is Mayweather's lack of an undisputed reign a knock against his legacy? I don't believe so because Mayweather was without a doubt the man at every weight class he fought in. However, I do hold it against Mayweather near the end of his career when he did not face the new talent like Porter, Brook, or Thurman. Overall, Mayweather is without a doubt an all time great.
                  Paul Williams and Floyd were both prime when Williams begged for the fight. Floyd refused to talk about Paul Williams, he'd cut off the interview. IMO Paul Williams would have smoked Floyd, Pau thought so and and more importantly so did Floyd. Margaritto pulled up on Floyd, Floyd started shuddering, he simply did NOT want to fight prime Margaritto. Everyone saw it, it was all over the internet.

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                  • djtmal
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Gary Coleman

                    None of those "top prime guys" are more significant wins than Floyd's welter wins over Mosley or Pacquiao.
                    Look to save Floyd all you want, Thurman beat Garcia and Porter in their prime for two thirds of the belts and called Floyd out.

                    Floyd totally ducked him.

                    Mosley was a shopworn 38 year old fighter by the time Floyd got around to fighting him, and Manny had 60+ fights plus been ko'd previously.
                    Name wise they are more significant, prime wise no.

                    Thurman has a right to talk.

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                    • meme_man
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by factsarenice

                      LOL, lets talk prime...... Floyd's best wins were against PAST their primes Moseley and Oscar avoided PBC hit-man Paul Williams, prime Margarito and anyone in their PRIME that would give Floyd problems. If we are talking prime, that cuts both ways.
                      The guy who using plaster and the 6 foot guy who didn't use his size okay lol at the end of the day Floyd beat everyone he fought

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