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  • garfios
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    #71
    Originally posted by budfr

    I had a long stay there some years ago. In Cuba, the government promotes politeness, nationalism and to be pro Latin America. Once the Cubans leave the island to be " free " ( to make money with the advantages that Uncle Sam gives them ), for the most part they change. Even drugs are not a problem in Cuba, nor you see the amount of homelessness that you see in the States.
    Everybody is homeless in their own house. The have holes in the roof, the sewer gets clogged every time it rains, there's no garbage trucks and they throw the $h1t everywhere, rains happens almost everyday, and we come to the USA to work and get better. No advantages, our kids, Cuban kids born from Cuban immigrants made more money than any other Latinamerican immigrants. Stop that bs propaganda, why do you think Morell jr, Ramirez, Casamayor, Abreu, Céspedes and dozens of defectors athletes has left the Island? Because the government is pro-people? STFU. By nature every Caribbean nation is polite. Ask Venezuela how polite and pro-latinamerica the nefasto Cuban government is.
    Last edited by garfios; 06-21-2023, 08:44 PM.

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    • Oracle01
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      #72
      Originally posted by dannnnn
      Who cares if he's only had nine pro fights? If he's ready, he's ready, and if he isn't we'll find out.
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      If he has not proved he is ready why should he get the shot at an undisputed eliminator? That never happens usually.

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      • dannnnn
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        #73
        Originally posted by Oracle01

        If he has not proved he is ready why should he get the shot at an undisputed eliminator? That never happens usually.
        Morrell is WBA regular champ and Benavidez is WBC interim champ, so who better to square off in a title eliminator?

        But really, forget the belts and the eliminator (because the orgs do whatever they want anyway). This is the best fight at 168lbs outside of Canelo-Benavidez, so as a boxing fan why would you not want to see it?​

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          #74
          Originally posted by dannnnn

          Morrell is WBA regular champ and Benavidez is WBC interim champ, so who better to square off in a title eliminator?

          But really, forget the belts and the eliminator (because the orgs do whatever they want anyway). This is the best fight at 168lbs outside of Canelo-Benavidez, so as a boxing fan why would you not want to see it?​
          Those belts are fake. Ask yourself how can someone without a single top 10 win and 9 fights, deserve to fight an eliminator?

          What does a win over Morrell do for Benavidez's career?

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            #75
            Originally posted by Oracle01

            Those belts are fake. Ask yourself how can someone without a single top 10 win and 9 fights, deserve to fight an eliminator?

            What does a win over Morrell do for Benavidez's career?
            A lot, actually. It would make another big statement and further solidify him as the man Canelo must face next. Remove Plant's name and Benavidez's resume is currently nothing special. Nine fights or not, Morrell is perceived as one of the major threats in the division so why wouldn't you want a scalp like that to further bolster your claim as the number one contender to the crown?

            Considering Benavidez isn't getting the Canelo fight next, can you tell me who would be a tougher opponent for him in the meantime than Morrell? I can understand why Benavidez's management team would want to swerve Morrell, but boxing fans like us surely just want to see the best fights, no?​​

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              #76
              Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll

              I don't disagree with anyone who says that this is not the best fight for Benavidez. I wouldn't advise him to take it either if I was on his mgmt team. I am arguing against anyone who has a problem with Morrell Jr calling Benavidez out. Anyone who has watcehd him kmows that Morrell is good enough to challenge Benavidez so why wouldn't he call him out? Why wouldn any fan not want to see it - especially considering that Canelo doesn't seem interested. I wouldn't mind seeing Benavidez - Mungo throw down and it would undoubtedly bring more money than a Morrell fight, but I think Benavidez - Morrell Jr is a better overall matchup.
              Morrell should be ambitious for sure. He shouldn't be disappointed, though. No reason he should only have 9 fights; although, he started his career right before COVID, so I have sympathy. But, since 2021, he's fought twice a year. That's reserved for the most established talent. He needs to be fighting once every two months, get into the 20-0 range, and then calling out the Benavidez's of the world would make more sense, and be intriguing. The same, really, applies for Benavidez when it comes to Canelo. He had two chances to fight Canelo, and did ******* and came in overweight. He's paying for his mistakes, and may never get the Canelo fight.

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                #77
                Originally posted by dannnnn

                A lot, actually. It would make another big statement and further solidify him as the man Canelo must face next. Remove Plant's name and Benavidez's resume is currently nothing special. Nine fights or not, Morrell is perceived as one of the major threats in the division so why wouldn't you want a scalp like that to further bolster your claim as the number one contender to the crown?

                Considering Benavidez isn't getting the Canelo fight next, can you tell me who would be a tougher opponent for him in the meantime than Morrell? I can understand why Benavidez's management team would want to swerve Morrell, but boxing fans like us surely just want to see the best fights, no?​​
                SOME hardcore fans think Morrell is a threat, some don't. Casuals have no idea who he is, and will only know this guy has 9 fights. NOBODY knows how good Morrell really is, so if Benavidez smokes him what will it really prove?

                Not much. What if he loses? Its a disaster. Dumb match up for Benavidez. Great match up for Morrell though. He is a clout chaser, fought nobody yet wants to fight the best guy in the division? Nah.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Oracle01

                  SOME hardcore fans think Morrell is a threat, some don't. Casuals have no idea who he is, and will only know this guy has 9 fights. NOBODY knows how good Morrell really is, so if Benavidez smokes him what will it really prove?

                  Not much. What if he loses? Its a disaster. Dumb match up for Benavidez. Great match up for Morrell though. He is a clout chaser, fought nobody yet wants to fight the best guy in the division? Nah.
                  Bro, casuals have no idea who Benavidez is either. They might have heard his name floated around in connection with Canelo recently but that's about it. His PPV with Plant tanked. He's not a star, at all. If Morrell was calling out Canelo I would agree and say he hasn't earned it yet, but a top contender calling out another top contender? That's what I want as a boxing fan and you should too.

                  As for Morrell, at least half of his fights have been featured on either Fox or Showtime and his most recent bout was chief support to the main event on a massive PPV, Tank-Garcia. He's not some unknown, unheard of guy plucked from obscurity like you're making him out to be. He's not a clout chaser either, he's a contender trying to knock off other contenders.

                  This fight is great for boxing, in all honesty the only people I see trying to denounce it are Benavidez fans scared he will lose.

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                    #79
                    [QUOTE=dannnnn;n31905281]

                    Bro, casuals have no idea who Benavidez is either. They might have heard his name floated around in connection with Canelo recently but that's about it. His PPV with Plant tanked. He's not a star, at all. If Morrell was calling out Canelo I would agree and say he hasn't earned it yet, but a top contender calling out another top contender? That's what I want as a boxing fan and you should too.

                    As for Morrell, at least half of his fights have been featured on either Fox or Showtime and his most recent bout was chief support to the main event on a massive PPV, Tank-Garcia. He's not some unknown, unheard of guy plucked from obscurity like you're making him out to be. He's not a clout chaser either, he's a contender trying to knock off other contenders.

                    This fight is great for boxing, in all honesty the only people I see trying to denounce it are Benavidez fans scared he will lose.[/QUOTE]
                    Don't bother, that's exactly what's going on with those fans against this fight.

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                    • garfios
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by -Kev-

                      True, after you worked your way up to it by fighting other top contenders, beating actual names, etc, the lower level contenders in The Ring/TBRB. The low reward guys.

                      Mayweather didn’t call out DLH, Mosley and Gatti when he was 9-0. He first fought other top contenders like Manfredy, Corrales, Hernandez, Chavez, Castillo 2x. Then he called out the money makers, the guys who would give him that PPV fight he had been craving for. DLH and Mosley turned him down, yes, but Gatti, then #1 ranked by The Ring at 140, and WBC champion, gave him a shot and it was Mayweather’s first PPV. Even then, before he got DLH and Mosley’s attention, he had to fight other top contenders Judah and Baldomir to show his worth. At 30 years old, after all that work, finally DLH fought him and Mosley started calling him out.

                      Now you got guys like David Morrell wanting to skip the line and win the lottery at 9-0 with an unworthy resume.

                      Do you prefer that? You don’t even want to see Morrell vs low tier contenders first? You think he just deserves the top money guys of the division? What about Morrell vs Dirrell, Ryder, Plant, Parker? He could just skip the line and get a big payday because he talked his way into some fans hearts?
                      Why are you mentioning a guy that got ktfo by plant, and another, ryder, that ran away from a fight with Morell jr, you should know that ryder was slated to fight the Cuban in his sixth fight. I can see plant, just for the name value, not for what he will offer in the ring, although he looked better with the breadman at his side. Still, he's 1-2 with a Ko lost, granted against the top dogs of the division. And you're putting too much value on the quantity of fights, not quality, fighting bums is going to do nothing for his career nor development, some fighters like Rigondeaux, lomachenko and Morell jr don't need 40 fights to be ready for the upper echelon. There's not a straight line to stardom nor a waiting line, if you have the talent and the right team behind you, there's no need to wait 10 years for a shot, a least he's calling the top dog in benavidez, which by the way he's not a cash cow. Compare the first 9 fights of benavidez, ennis, mbilli and pacheco to Morell jr, and tell me what you see.

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