Comments Thread For: Johnny Nelson: Not Buying That Bull**** That Nobody Wants To Fight Tyson Fury

[Roberto Vasquez]

Tyson said he would fight anyone for free in a car park but then ran when Usyk gave him 70/30 in him in his favor...

[Airbox3]

Boxers ain’t scared they just don’t want to deal with his crap

[Yaconcha]

Tyson Fury does have two mega wins for sure 'But one of those wins was 7-8 years ago vs Wladimir Kiltschko. And was it really a masterclass? Fury won the fight with trickery, he did not beat up or knock Kiltschko out.

Kiltschko was a Champion for a decade, and was unfortunately denied a rematch 'All these factors matter mate'.

Fury in some ways stole the fight vs Kiltschko and then bounced.

Evander Holyfield re-matched Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali re-matched Joe Frazier twice, Norton Twice.

Wilder had to endure many fights outside the ring legally, to forced a rematch with Tyson Fury 'YOU did not want the fight to happen, hardcore Fury fans were complaining about Wilder vs Fury III. And it was Deontay Wilder, not Tyson Fury who rematch Fury II.

What you also need to understand, is that Fury did not win the first Wilder fight 'You don't win world title, by being backed up all night and decked twice'.

Lets get one thing straight? It was Anthony Joshua who ****** up and knocked out Wladimir Kiltschko 'In the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years'.

Tyson Fury outside of Wladimir Kiltschko & Deontay Wilder has predominately objectively according to rankings 'Fought at domestic to European level in 95% of his fights, EVEN as the WBC Heavyweight World Champion'.

You can sit there and try your best mate, to run the hardcore Fury fan tactics of ATTACKING other fighters resumes and characters.

It is not working anymore, understand that Tyson Fury has lost the public 'He has lost the vote'.

And the only way he can regain such a position again, is by doing what all GOOD & GREAT Champions historically have always done 'And if Fury does that, there is no way with conviction that any honest boxing fans can criticize him'.

Champions fight their nearest competition 'You make the big fights, and if the big fights are not made. Quite simply just fight another ranked contender'.

Fury has lost the public due to a combination of things. For me 'When Tyson Fury made a offer to fight Joshua, due the aftermath of Usyk II. This was a blatant opportunist move from Fury 'Fury was trying to take advantage of Joshua's then perceive vulnerability'.

Any man who has been to school or has any sort of street commonsense 'You know exactly the behavior among other men or people, that I am talking about. I am making serious point'.

You know what I am talking about. Maybe that is what it is with certain folk. They stay quiet, they keep their distance. But when they sense or think there is a opportunity, they make opportune moves and start piping up 'Outside of boxing, I do not respect that type of behavior'.

And it is since that moment, Tyson Fury's usual sociopolitical games just have not been working.

Note: I have always been adamant that Tyson Fury, does not like being a Champion. Fury much more prefers to be a contender and underdog 'And I would not be surprised if Fury tactically considers vacating the WBC Heavyweight title'.

Tyson Fury is a great fighter, but I have never rated him as a great Champion. I have even watched a recent interview with one of his brothers 'And even he stated very similar to what I have been stating but in his own words i.e On Fury not being a great Champion, and he much more excels and prefers being a contender'.

well said, I love this.

[Yaconcha]

The sooner the diddycoy is gone the better. Yes he moves around very well for a big man and he does have skill obviously but fight top people and prove it. Everybody gets the gimme more money thing but you have to expect that boxing fans want challenge and fighting Del Boy 3 times or wilder 3 times has NOT made this fellah something like his namesake. Mike Tyson beat ALL the top boys before he was fury’s age. Either fight the best to earn the right to be called….or fack off and let others go at it because they will.

[Monty Fisto]

I think the third fight with Wilder was so brutal, so gruelling, that Fury has lost some of his appetite to take on similarly-taxing contests. He wants the easy fights in preference and we've seen from his actions how he has tried to discourage elite opponents from matching up with him. He's still relatively young at 34, but he's such a big man with so much weight, I wonder how much longer he wants to keep doing it. I'd guess he has one maybe two big fights left in him and wants to pad the rest out with B-level opponents.

[factsarenice]

The list of reasons why Fury isn't fighting is longer than Wilder excuses for his losses. Nobody wants to hear it, go back to uncastrated wild boar, find the courage or retire and go away.

[factsarenice]

Fury is a fraud, and Suleiman isn't a sport fan he's a pimp, an enabler that allows this BS

[PRINCEKOOL]

I agree about the money, i think Fury's gone full A-side diva.
But B level?
Fury's beaten 2 world number 1s for all the belts in theyre own back yards as the underdog & had the biggest trilogy since Bowe Holyfield with one of them.
Name another heavyweight today to do that? I'll wait.

After saying that though, killing the Usyk fight going full diva was the final straw for me. That's an Aj Eddie move, now he's a b level duck, take away all the shot past it 38-41 year old names & whos he beat?

Tyson Fury does have two mega wins for sure 'But one of those wins was 7-8 years ago vs Wladimir Kiltschko. And was it really a masterclass? Fury won the fight with trickery, he did not beat up or knock Kiltschko out.

Kiltschko was a Champion for a decade, and was unfortunately denied a rematch 'All of these factors matter mate'.

Fury in some ways stole the fight vs Kiltschko and then bounced.

Evander Holyfield re-matched Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali re-matched Joe Frazier twice, Norton Twice.

Wilder had to endure many fights outside the ring legally, to forced a rematch with Tyson Fury 'YOU did not want the fight to happen, hardcore Fury fans were complaining about Wilder vs Fury III. And it was Deontay Wilder, not Tyson Fury who rematched Fury II.

What you also need to understand, is that Fury did not win the first Wilder fight 'You don't win world title's, by being backed up all night and decked twice'.

Lets get one thing straight? It was Anthony Joshua who ****** up and knocked out Wladimir Kiltschko 'In the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years'.

Tyson Fury outside of Wladimir Kiltschko & Deontay Wilder has predominately objectively according to rankings 'Fought at domestic to European level in 95% of his fights, EVEN as the WBC Heavyweight World Champion'.

You can sit there and try your best mate, to run the hardcore Fury fan tactics of ATTACKING other fighters resumes and characters.

It is not working anymore, understand that Tyson Fury has lost the public 'He has lost the vote'.

And the only way he can regain such a position again, is by doing what all GOOD & GREAT Champions historically have always done 'And if Fury does that, there is no way with conviction that any honest boxing fans can criticize him'.

Champions fight their nearest competition 'You make the big fights, and if the big fights are not made. Quite simply just fight another ranked contender'.

Fury has lost the public due to a combination of things. For me 'When Tyson Fury made a offer to fight Joshua, during the aftermath of Usyk II. This was a blatant opportunist move from Fury 'Fury was trying to take advantage of Joshua's then perceived vulnerability'.

Any man who has been to school or has any sort of street commonsense 'You know exactly the behavior among other men or people, that I am talking about. I am making serious point'.

You know what I am talking about. Maybe that is what it is with certain folk. They stay quiet, they keep their distance. But when they sense or think there is a opportunity, they make opportune moves and start piping up 'Outside of boxing, I do not respect that type of behavior'.

And it is since that moment, Tyson Fury's usual sociopolitical games just have not been working.

Note: I have always been adamant that Tyson Fury, does not like being a Champion. Fury much more prefers to be a contender and underdog 'And I would not be surprised if Fury tactically considers vacating the WBC Heavyweight title'.

Tyson Fury is a great fighter, but I have never rated him as a great Champion. I have even watched a recent interview with one of his brothers 'And even he stated very similar to what I have been stating but in his own words i.e On Fury not being a great Champion, and he much more excels and prefers being a contender'.

[Tecnoworld]

Nobody wants to fight him "for free", that's what he'd like ppl to do.

[Toffee]

I'm sure Fury thinks he beats everyone.

He's just not willing to take any sort of risk to find out if it's not absolutely necessary.

It's taken years for people to see what's been in front of them the whole time. He was never the 'fighting man'. He's always been this guy.