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  • paulf
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    #11
    Originally posted by Silence

    Pride and honor > titles

    If I lost like that, I would never fight again.
    Who are you to lecture a four division world champion on pride and honor?

    You're a clown that clearly knows nothing about either.

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    • Silence
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      #12
      Originally posted by paulf

      Who are you to lecture a four division world champion on pride and honor?

      You're a clown that clearly knows nothing about either.
      Shut up you dummy. Keep watching loser dinosaurs.

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      • MusoMeanderings
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        #13
        It's funny how life works sometimes.

        After Rigondeaux gave Donaire a proper hiding it was logical to assume that the sky was the limit for the cuban.

        Instead, Nonito still fights for titles at 40 and Guillermo is living on scraps.

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        • crimsonfalcon07
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          #14
          Hopefully he doesn't get that douche Tony Weeks for a ref...

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          • SUBZER0ED
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            #15
            Nonito doesn't want his last fight to be a two round destruction by Inoue, I get that. He has a 4.5" height and 3" reach advantage over Santiago. But he also has a 13 year age disadvantage to him. It might not turn out how he plans.

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              #16
              Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
              Nonito doesn't want his last fight to be a two round destruction by Inoue, I get that. He has a 4.5" height and 3" reach advantage over Santiago. But he also has a 13 year age disadvantage to him. It might not turn out how he plans.
              Nonito's style is predicated on power and timing. Both of those are the last things to fade. He was able to go life and death with Naoya Inoue for 12 rounds 4 years ago and then bounce back 2 years ago with two devastating knockouts over younger undefeated guys, one who was a legit champion in his own right with two defenses, one against a guy named Inoue who is currently a world champion...

              I'm not betting against the Filipino Flash personally.

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              • SUBZER0ED
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                #17
                Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

                Nonito's style is predicated on power and timing. Both of those are the last things to fade. He was able to go life and death with Naoya Inoue for 12 rounds 4 years ago and then bounce back 2 years ago with two devastating knockouts over younger undefeated guys, one who was a legit champion in his own right with two defenses, one against a guy named Inoue who is currently a world champion...

                I'm not betting against the Filipino Flash personally.
                It was actually 2 years and 7 months between Donaire's and Inoue's two fights. Donaire likely retired because he realized that after going 12 rounds in their first fight, but getting destroyed in 2 rounds less than 3 years later, he was shot. If he beats Santiago, he should retire a winner and a champ. To go on after that is a bad move.

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                • crimsonfalcon07
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

                  It was actually 2 years and 7 months between Donaire's and Inoue's two fights. Donaire likely retired because he realized that after going 12 rounds in their first fight, but getting destroyed in 2 rounds less than 3 years later, he was shot. If he beats Santiago, he should retire a winner and a champ. To go on after that is a bad move.
                  When did Donaire retire? Wasn't after the first Inoue fight.

                  Former four-division champion Nonito Donaire will end his 18-month layoff against Nordine Oubaali for a Showtime main event in Carson.


                  And it's certainly not after the second one.

                  Nonito Donaire isn’t just planning to stay in competitive boxing, he is targeting huge fights in his future career.


                  That little chunk of time in the middle was also a little thing called a global pandemic, when everything was shut down. Not sure what you're on about.

                  And being knocked out quickly by Naoya Inoue isn't exactly a mark of shame. You trying to say one of the P4P elite is a scrub or something? Just because he came out second best to one of the generational talents doesn't mean he can't still be one of the best in his current division, which is why he's ranked that way by virtually everyone. People like you said he should retire after the first Inoue loss too, and he came back and knocked out Oubaali and Gaballo, who were both undefeated at the time. That's Oubaali's only loss and appears to have retired Oubaali. And Oubaali had a win over current world champion Takuma Inoue... Everyone so far has lost to Inoue, and most by knockout. Donaire is about the only guy who has ever made it close.

                  If his style were like Teofimo Lopez, and based on explosiveness, or Shakur with his razor sharp reflexes, I could see age being more and more of a factor. Loma's style is starting to suffer with age too, because if you are basing things on quickness, that goes fast. But power and timing are the last things to go, and that's what's important to Donaire's style. He doesn't have quick feet, he just times you and counters hard. Mike Tyson still has plenty of both, and he's way older than Donaire. And Manny Pacquiao, who does have a style that suffers with respect to age, still was able to be competitive with contenders at older than Donaire. I'll believe Donaire is done when he loses in an uncompetitive fashion to a contender. But if anyone's style will last a long time past expiration, it's his.

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                  • SUBZER0ED
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

                    When did Donaire retire? Wasn't after the first Inoue fight.

                    Former four-division champion Nonito Donaire will end his 18-month layoff against Nordine Oubaali for a Showtime main event in Carson.


                    And it's certainly not after the second one.

                    Nonito Donaire isn’t just planning to stay in competitive boxing, he is targeting huge fights in his future career.


                    That little chunk of time in the middle was also a little thing called a global pandemic, when everything was shut down. Not sure what you're on about.

                    And being knocked out quickly by Naoya Inoue isn't exactly a mark of shame. You trying to say one of the P4P elite is a scrub or something? Just because he came out second best to one of the generational talents doesn't mean he can't still be one of the best in his current division, which is why he's ranked that way by virtually everyone. People like you said he should retire after the first Inoue loss too, and he came back and knocked out Oubaali and Gaballo, who were both undefeated at the time. That's Oubaali's only loss and appears to have retired Oubaali. And Oubaali had a win over current world champion Takuma Inoue... Everyone so far has lost to Inoue, and most by knockout. Donaire is about the only guy who has ever made it close.

                    If his style were like Teofimo Lopez, and based on explosiveness, or Shakur with his razor sharp reflexes, I could see age being more and more of a factor. Loma's style is starting to suffer with age too, because if you are basing things on quickness, that goes fast. But power and timing are the last things to go, and that's what's important to Donaire's style. He doesn't have quick feet, he just times you and counters hard. Mike Tyson still has plenty of both, and he's way older than Donaire. And Manny Pacquiao, who does have a style that suffers with respect to age, still was able to be competitive with contenders at older than Donaire. I'll believe Donaire is done when he loses in an uncompetitive fashion to a contender. But if anyone's style will last a long time past expiration, it's his.
                    I could have sworn he said during the interview in the ring after the second fight that he was going to retire. Maybe he changed his mind. I never said it was shameful to lose to Inoue, nor did I say he should have retired after the first fight, but his dad wanted him to retire after the second one. I am saying that after this fight vs Santiago, he's done. Watch. The Filipino Flash is one of my favorite fighters, but he doesn't need to stay in the game until he gets hurt by these young guys. People like you want to see a fighter continue to fight until he's all used up and permanently damaged.

                    Nonito Donaire Sr. would like to see his son Nonito Donaire Jr. call it a day in professional boxing following his second-round technical knockout defeat at the hands of Naoya Inoue this past Tuesday at the Super Arena in Saitama, Japan.

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                    • crimsonfalcon07
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

                      I could have sworn he said during the interview in the ring after the second fight that he was going to retire. Maybe he changed his mind. I never said it was shameful to lose to Inoue, nor did I say he should have retired after the first fight, but his dad wanted him to retire after the second one. I am saying that after this fight vs Santiago, he's done. Watch. The Filipino Flash is one of my favorite fighters, but he doesn't need to stay in the game until he gets hurt by these young guys. People like you want to see a fighter continue to fight until he's all used up and permanently damaged.

                      https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/spor...o-inoue/story/
                      I don't want him to stay in the game until he's injured. I'm saying that's the decision of him and his wife, and none of your and my business. Those two are the only ones capable of making an educated decision about it anyways. They both think he's still got what it takes, and they're the ones who see what's going on in training camp.

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